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 Post subject: 4x4x5 lots of pics
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:30 pm 
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how to build / make / construct a 4x4x5
this is for anyone interested in building / knowing a 4x4x5 and has no idea how it works. i assume you have a brain and can put together for yourself what i don't explain. i let the pics do the talking mostly, but i'll give explanation where needed.

here is the concept
my goal was to not have to bandage, also to make it look as stock as possible. it came out OK. the tolerance is low. also the screws have a bad habbit of coming unscrewed so i will have to glue them in place and rebuild it, which scares me. it took about an 1/2 hour just to assemble it , im exhausted. (update, all screws glued)
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^^i put 1/16th inch shims to compensate for the width of the blade^^
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^^the plastic coming up from the mech is just for support^^
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^^i cut the wings off so they wouldn't interfere with movement^^
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^^the center pieces are easy. just pop them off the mech and turn^^
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^^once again shims and shave^^
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^^just cut the mech off, then fit and glue it^^
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^^cut the block on the spindle like so^^
bad picture, i know. original spindle on the right, modified on the left
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^^glue these to the spindle so they don't get "lost" while turning^^
i'll explain more below
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^^the piece to the right of the screw is one we glued^^
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did i miss anything?

as for the mechanism alignment thing, think of it as a masterball. the outside can look aligned, but the inside could totally be jacked up. the spindle can literally rotate and get lost inside the "shell" of the visible pieces. the mech can be completely disoriented inside because there are no center pieces holding the top and bottom of the cube to the spindle. it's hard for me to explain. anyone else want to try?


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Very nice.


I just wish Eastsheen would see these and decided to mass produce them. :P

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Eww... is that a Chinese knockoff 4x4?

No wonder the screws keep on coming off.

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ironically the chinese ones are better. they don't bind, and the action is much nicer than the ones directly from eastsheen. i simply wanted it to turn as nice a possible, so i chose the chinese knockoffs

and the screws come off because i disassembled and reassembled it so much. i should have thought that one through. live and learn


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that is one sexy cube. i might have to take a try at this one after i get done with another mod im working on. very nice looking great job p|astic

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this took way longer than i anticipated. i know it's been done before, but i hadn't done a successful cuboid yet. i bailed on my giant 3x3 due to alignment issues.

can't wait to see your next mod rick... any hint?


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It looks great, not knowing the inside of a 4x4 Chinese knockoff, would this work with an eastsheen cube, or are the parts different sizes making it not possible? Thanks, Also beautiful instructions/pictures.


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the pieces are identical, just bigger. the spindle is a little different. im not really sure why it's quality was even in question... ?


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Well i thought because it is called a "Chinese knockoff" it would be worse quality than an eastsheen cube, I have never heard of anyone using a Chinese knockoff in speedcubing (but I don't pay much attention into speedcubing :oops: ). Thanks.


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Sandy you there? Do you think this belongs in the Article section? I beleave it does. :D :) 8-) :wink:

How is a Chinese knockoff 4x4x4 cube different from a Eastsheen cube?

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i think it only differs in size and the spindle is different. i think functionality relies on the manufacturer. precision, materials, etc...
thanks for the nomination, Darren :D

by the way... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMvALZLRy4


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Do you have any tips for the construction of the outer layer? The preciseness of those pieces puzzle me.

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[02:25] <Swordsman_Kirby> Yes.
[02:25] <fusion> maybe i should try that


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i didn't really have an issue with precision on the outter layers. after i cut the face from a piece i would put the mechanism into a spare 4x4 i had, then reglue the face using the pieces on the 4x4 as a guide for squareness / plumbness.


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Love the puzzle / tutorial. Thanks for taking the time in making this. Looks great!


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Excellent, Plastic! It looks great. There are so many of these puzzles I want to try making, I'm just too intimidated to try!!

This is made from the 7.2cm 4x4x4s, right?


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no they're the 2 7/8 inch cubes... :wink:


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p|astic wrote:
no they're the 2 7/8 inch cubes... :wink:


Nice. :P


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I hope to own one someday. Awesome! :mrgreen:

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fusion wrote:
I hope to own one someday. Awesome! :mrgreen:

here :)


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p|astic lol

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My original idea was to "make" one like yours, since yours is the only tutorial I can find. Any tips?

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my only tip is to work up to this. maybe a 2x2x3, and do a lot of planning (understand it thoroughly), and take your time (there are a lot of pieces to modify, be patient)


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I was just wondering if this http://www.chrono.org/puzzles/4x4x5.html would be the same as the way you did it. It really doesnt give piece by piece instructions but wouldnt it be just about the same?

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