I was on a plane for a few hours so I took a bunch of algorithms and reversed and mirired them to find something good for one handed. I took x' R2 u' R' u l R y' R' U R' U' R2, reversed and mirired it to get this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQYLNFJVLRA

looks nice.

thanks! i have all J's and Jmirrors from every angle except this one, and this bad boy looks quick.

this is what i wrote down from the video

(r2U')(L'Ur'U2)(lU'l'U2)

After re-reading your post, I couldn't figure out right away how come the alg you provided didn't work LOL

So I found this off of your video. I actually MUCH prefer this to my current of
(RUR'F') (RUR'U')(R'FR2U'R'U') (14)

If I read this the right way, here's what I got from your vid with fingertricks:

(r2, U’, L’, U, L’ ), x2, (F2, R, U’, l', U2) (10 + cube rotation)

I like it personally, and think I'll use it more as I get more familiar with it.

Thanks for sharing!!

I'm reall proud of myself for it. it's amazing what you can do when your bored on a plane.

Dude, you totally should be!

So what other handy algs do you have floating around that might be fast? Anything good for the Edge+Corner rotation Perms??

well, whats your worst PLL besides "N"

I don't know the "names" exactly, but I know what you mean when you say them... I think they're the G permutations. They have Edge and Corner cycling at the same time...

They're #'s 14-17 on this site: http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html

Anyway, the algs I use are actually ON the cubewhiz site - I have slight variations for the left and right hand which work for me from the cubewhiz page, but was curious what you might use

I'll make a video now... I use 1 for each one so when I get those I have to rotate the cube.

Awesome dude - you rock! I have the same issue where I need to rotate to get the cube into position, but I just want something that takes me less than 6+ seconds to do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dywHZX0pwp8

it took forever to load.

at the end is the origonal verson of the "amazing J"

Thanks for that dude - I do the G's all exactly the same as you do, but I just don't do it as smooth...

Thanks soooo much though for your help with that - I now know what I have to work on to make it faster

Gs used to be my worst too. Just do them over ans over again. do one then do it in reverse and repeat. I should do the same with N.

I'm just going to type out my G's for anyone who needs them. They're reasonably fast, about an average permutation for me.

(R U R') y' (R2 u') (R U') (R' U R') (u R2)
(R2 u') (R U' R) (U R') (u R2) y (R U' R')
(R' U' R) y (R2 u) (R' U) (R U' R) (u' R2)
(R2 u) (R' U R') (U' R) (u' R2) y' (R' U R)

Good luck.

Swap two corner-edge pairs: (R U' L) (U2 R' U R U2 R' L').

David J

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yeah i've seen this its a niklas sune with cancellations...i needed one that was finger friendly for that with a y2 applied, in that specific position

edit:

maybe its not, it looks different acutally but it feels ugly in the fingers, alas i'm but a speedcuber

You're thinking of a different alg. That alg was the first combo I worked out right after I worked out what you call sune and niklas.
R U2 R' U' R (U' R' R U' )L' U R' U' L
R U2 R' U' R ***U2**** L' U' R' U' L

If you look at (R U' L) (U2 R' U R U2 R' L') differently it is quite quick and easily done.

David J

i don't like the ending personally, the slice stuff is killer, i don't mind L's and R's they just have to be in separate parts of the alg why do you say 'what i call sune and niklas' i also worked them out myself, but those have been what those algs have been referred to by most, and seem good as names as any to convey the idea.

ps i did my cancellation different then yours and get this for my jperm


R U' L U R' U2 L U' L' U2 L

Not being a slice, I do that R' L' at the end as one move with both hands simultaneously.

I said, "what you call sune and niklas" because you call them that, and I don't.

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sounds like someone is a tad bitter about that, i'm not the only one that calls them that, i'd say the vast majority of cubers use those terms as well, what do you call them? and also i'd like to see a video of your alg, maybe i'm just doing it a bad way.

It's really close. Inverse it and you get L R U2 R' U' R U2 L' U R' (U'). Now move the L to the end and you have R U2 R' U' R U2 L' U R' U' L, which is the well-known combination of Niklas and Sune. I can solve the J-permutation from all angles using these.

What is there to be bitter about?

I don't call them anything. I regularly use about 300 algs and I haven't thought to name them. I wouldn't want to try to remember them by names.

The first I saw "sune" (pronounced "sue-nuh") was in the hands of Lars and he does it differently enough that the name didn't stick.

What I have names for are orientations.

I call the 7 orientations All Up, Three Down, Headlights, Sidelights, Oddlights, Wheels, and Barrow.

All Up: All the corners on the Last Level are upright.
Three Down: Three corners on the Last Level are rotated clockwise or counterclockwise.
Headlights: Two corners on the Last Level are upright, two are rotated to face the same direction, like headlights on a car.
Sidelights: Two corners on the Last Level are upright, two are rotated to face away from each other.
Oddlights: Two corners on the Last Level are upright, two are rotated: Right Front and Left Rear or Right Rear or Left Front.
Wheels: All four corners on the Last Level are rotated, two pairs face away from each other, like wheels on a car.
Barrow: All four corners on the Last Level are rotated, two face away from each other like wheels on the front of a wheel barrow, and two face the same direction like handles on a wheel barrow.

I don't seem to have the means for posting. I can get something from my camera to my computer, but not out of that particular program to send anything.

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That's cool! I hadn't noticed that. I wonder if that's part of why it's so easy and fast for me, since I did R U2 R' U' R U2 L' U R' U' L for years. I still use variations of that - like to flip over two edges with the swap, or to solve a reverse headlights position.

It's interesting that it's well known. I think I was the first to put itonline - on the speedcubing list a few years years ago.

It's also very cool that you can solve it from all angles. IIRC Chris Pelly has an interesting alg for this too.

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Is it faster because
a.) you thought it out for your fingers?
b.) you are used to it?
c.) it is fewer moves?
d.) because your ego won't let you imagine anyone better?
e.) you don't know one better, you just made it up?

I'm pulling your leg because you didn't post it.

What is your alg for the two corner/edge swap?

David J

Writing out algs for the first time can be tricky.

There are several notation schemes in use, and their differences can be confusing.

One way to write out an alg for a beginner: assign a letter to each color of your cube; when you turn a side us a capitol letter like R for red, use just that letter if the turn it 90 degrees clockwise, use a R2 if the turn is 180 degrees and R' if the turn is 90 degrees counterclockwise.

If you use a middle slice use both sides colors, if you take the middle slice with a side use call it by the opposite side (which is actually what is turned). In other words, if you have the common new cube with Yellow opposite White then if you turn the Yellow side clockwise with its middle slice then call it Blue clockwise.

After you've written out the alg in colors you can then translate the colors into Up Down Left Right Front Back.

Good luck,

David J

PS few than ten moves for that is great!

That should be White.


And not even possible AFAIK... But maybe he uses different metric. We'll see.

Oops, I gave the old colors.

10 moves. Tewlve moves in half turn metric, same as the two I use.

Thanks,

DJ

Very nice. I'd write it as F2 R U R' F2 L D' L D L2. I'd like to see you do it.

Thanks,

DJ

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