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 Post subject: Which algs to memorize first/next?Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:39 pm

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:35 pm
As you can see from my latest solve (sub 60...YES!), orient last layer is where I'm losing the most time, so, this is the order in which I memorized the algorithms:

The basics:
1: adjacent corner swap (ignoring orientation)
2: diagonal corner swap (ignoring orientation)
2.5: 3-corner orientation (maintains permutation)
3: 3-way permutation of edges (ignoring edge orientation, maintaining corner orientation)
4: 2-edge orientation

Fidrich algs:
1: 3-way edge permutation (maintains orientation)
2: 4-way edge permutation (horizontal and vertical, maintaining orientation)
3: 4-way edge permutation (diagonal)
4: Orient all corners (maintaining permutation).
5: Orient three corners (maintaining permutation).

With the eventual goal breaking the last layer into two sets of algorithms, which should I go for next?

I was thinking 3-way corner permutation (CW and CCW). Any other thoughts?

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 am
Location: San Diego, California
start learning some OLL's and all of the PLL's. you can then do a modified 3 step last layer. then after some time progress to a 2 step last layer. i heard that Brittany Dzoan doesnt know all of her OLL's and she is 16 sec average

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 Post subject: Last LevelPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:43 am

Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:17 am
You might look at CLL ELL for the Last Layer, too. Learn the hardest algs first.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:10 pm

Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:38 pm
Location: Southern California
Here is what I recommend:

OLL:
2 algs for edges: F R U R' U' F' and f R U R' U' f'
7 algs for oriening corners (preserving edge orientation): look them up on any website that has a list of OLL algs

PLL: first just memorize the edge-only and corner-only cycles (5 algs), then slowly progress to memorizing all 21 PLL algs

Once you have this 3 step LL down quite nicely, progress to learning the rest of the OLL. That's my plan. I just finished figuring the best PLL algs and memorizing them, so I just practicing for a while right now, then I'll learn the rest of OLL (i know like 15-20 right now).

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:49 am

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I'm memorizing the PLL first before the OLL. Is it better to learn the OLL before the PLL?

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:40 am

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K wrote:
I'm memorizing the PLL first before the OLL. Is it better to learn the OLL before the PLL?

I think that a full PLL, is probably better than a full OLL. I only have learnt 7 OLL's, from a cross. I'm now learning all the PLL's,a dn then slowy im going to learn more and more OLL's.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:03 pm

Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:12 pm
Location: NY, USA
PLL is a lot less algorithms, and it's also more useful (if you decide to try Petrus, for example, you can reuse it, and it's also good for blindfold cubing). If you want, you can start with a 2-look OLL (one of 3 algs for edges, then one of 5 algs for corners) and 1-look PLL (all algorithms), then go on to full OLL when you learn the rest of it.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:49 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
K wrote:
I'm memorizing the PLL first before the OLL. Is it better to learn the OLL before the PLL?

OLL is useless without some PLLs.
Aslong as you can find a way to do OLL, (cross forming/sunes I recommend), PLL is the best to learn first.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:00 am

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: FL
Regarding Last Layer---

http://www.freewebs.com/cubesolution

I updated alot of crap recently as well as COLL cases WITHOUT disturbing edges.

Easy oll and easy pll page might help some people around here. Finishing F2L page has neat CE tricks for petrus users at the bottom.Correcting mistakes page is useful for everyone.The entire website is made for beginners (made this like 2 years ago for a friend) so skip all the noob chat i put in there if you will.

^_^ Have fun.

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