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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:59 pm 
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I'm so excited!!!!
At about 2:00 AM last night I put on the final sticker!
It's finally done after a year of working! HUZZAH!

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NOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYY!!!!
that is amazing i can't believe it man that is awesome can you show us how it was made maybe lol
a year of work really pays off at the end
well c ya and a fantastic job

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


THAT IS SO EXCELLENT!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!


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Wow, i need to get me one of those! More pictures please!


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To put it simply.






HOLY Crap. Im at a loss for words! Absolutely stunning.

EDit: By the way, i know you were having some trouble picking a base for your mech. What did you end up using. Before it was a dodecahedron piece of wood. Are you still using that? By the way, theres no chance of a video, is there? :(


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God I love it and I need one real bad!!!!!!!!!! :cry: ^1000

Awesome work on it.

Well I know what I want for Xmas. and my address is 301 N Jeefferson 56073 and the rest is under my name on the left. Just joking on the last sentence.

What are all of the colors on it? and may we see it scrambled? So what algorithms do you have for this already? Whats your fastest and average time on this Gigaminx?


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Can we see a picture of it scrambled? Also do you think you'll ever release this for trade or buy?

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Congratulations Tyler. That must feel awesome to finaly have it finished after so long. Are those stickers hand cut? That would drive me insane! This is the best costum build I've ever seen. Great job.

Yes, do please post a scrambled picture... if you dare.


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There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said.

Great job!!! It looks really professional. More pictures pleeeease!


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Is it April again?! lol j/k

Nice Job ;)

Can't wait to see more pics of it!!

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I promised my girlfriend I'd let her be the first to scramble it ... we're watching the DCI show and then I think she'll have some fun with it

I'll be posting more pics later tonight.

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"Wow" doesn't begin to describe it.

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243 handmade pieces...
372 stickers...
6.328x10^245 combinations...
12 months of work...
Just 1 puzzle...

or to put it another way.
Playing with the only Gigaminx in existance... PRICELESS!

This is an amazing puzzle from a skilled craftsman. Thank you for sharing your work with us. I am looking forward to seeing some scrambled and in progress solve pics sometime in the future.

Thanks,
Adam

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Just curious, how much would you charge to make one of these?

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lol for a years work? hourly rate? haha probably a years salary?! hahaha...


oh man. I would really hope Tyler would make more one day. Or possibly get it manufactured somehow?

I wonder if Mr. Pochmann can speed solve this as well?

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Lets see a blindfolded gigaminx solve!

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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
6.328x10^245 combinations...


Thats the most combinations for now and here we have below are the other ones that are available right now to buy for a reasonable price.

viewtopic.php?p=24025&highlight=rubiks+zigzag+%2Adarren+grewe#24025

Who is that one guy from Europe that made the 7x7x7 cube? I wonder how many combinations that has compared to this because the 6x6x6 cube only has 1.572 * 10^116.

7x7x7 Cube VS 5x5x5 Gigaminx


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I haven't tried to solve it yet because, unfortunately, it turns like a bad Alexander's Star. There won't be a time recorded on this for a little while and there probably won't be any speedsolving.

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243 handmade pieces...
372 stickers...
6.328x10^245 combinations...
12 months of work...

Playing with the only Gigaminx in existance... PRICELESS!

Couldn't agree more :D
Yes, those stickers are hand cut. I got the vinyl for free from a sign shop. They only asked that I give them some pictures of the finished piece. I think I can live with that.

OH, The central core! Remember a month or two back when somebody found a supply of $5 megaminx knockoffs? Well, I bought 4 and two of them died to make this guy.

I was showing it off today (Just couldn't help myself) and some of my friends came up with the name "Rubik's Death Star". I think it works pretty well.

Finally, you all asked for 'em. Scrambled Pics!

The first is my girlfriend Laura in the middle of scrambling. She's really excited that she could scramble a puzzle that I couldn't solve while just sitting there. She gets a little frustrated when she sets down a scrambled cube and takes her attention off of it for about ... oh 30 seconds and then finds it solved.

The second and third are shots of the same scramble which I have yet to try to solve.

TBTTyler


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Impressive! Thanks for sharing.


Hmmm, to solve would you do a center first, then edges like a 5x5x5?

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Stefan Pochmann wrote:

Quote:
corners: (20! / 2) * (3^19)
edges: (30! / 2) * (2^29)
wings: (60! / 2)
Xcenters: 60! / (5! ^ 12)
+centers: 60! / (5! ^ 12)



Swedishlf Figured the number:
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3647901153073307598630816103723181012
6550658817557032614250463652442041805
2012591965833824494002983141195363719
8326225998593216732823782582855489227
5955647526722393916797031058424637663
1322981975599093194264275595527530658
0780920078336000000000000000000000000
00000

if my calculator didn't have a fit.

In scientific notation: 3.65x10^263


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6.328x10^245 combinations...


There seems to be something amiss here. The math looks right from Stefan and Swedishlf. Where did you get your number, Puzzlemaster?

TBTTyler

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How do you get the quotes to say "Whoever Wrote" instead of just saying "quote"?


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Congratulations!! :D
It's so exciting, and incredible puzzle!

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How do you get the quotes to say "Whoever Wrote" instead of just saying "quote"?


If you use [quote]tag, you may replace [quote="Whoever"] tag to bold "Whoever".

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TBTTyler wrote:

Stefan Pochmann wrote:

corners: (20! / 2) * (3^19)
edges: (30! / 2) * (2^29)
wings: (60! / 2)
Xcenters: 60! / (5! ^ 12)
+centers: 60! / (5! ^ 12)



Swedishlf wrote:
Figured the number:
3647901153073307598630816103723181012
6550658817557032614250463652442041805
2012591965833824494002983141195363719
8326225998593216732823782582855489227
5955647526722393916797031058424637663
1322981975599093194264275595527530658
0780920078336000000000000000000000000
00000

if my calculator didn't have a fit.

In scientific notation: 3.65x10^263


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6.328x10^245 combinations...


There seems to be something amiss here. The math looks right from Stefan and Swedishlf. Where did you get your number, Puzzlemaster?

TBTTyler

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How do you get the quotes to say "Whoever Wrote" instead of just saying "quote"?


Now it does it look right?????? If not I can fix it.

Here is how you do what you want to do with the Quotes

You go to the little icon on the right hand side and click it then it should have the persons message in a quotes for you(there name in 1 quote and a / in the other) and then if you want to type in between the quotes and have it stand out like it is your message you just have to do the same thing again but copy and paste works wonders.

Sorry but this is the only way I could show you.


This going on last. This goes on first. Please ignore the periods
[/quote].......................[quote="TBTTyler"]

I hope you can understand me. I'm sorry if you can't.


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I used Jaap's pages on the Megaminx and 5x5x5 to figure this out and found what was overlooked the first time.

The "wing" orientation is determined by its position.
Wings: (60!/2)/(2^60)

This reduces the number of possible combinations to 6.328x10^245

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Holy mince.

As far as I know, there isn't even a computer simulation for this puzzle.

Damn good work.


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good job man! this is by far one of the best builds ive ever seen. keep the name gigaminx not rubiks death star.


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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
The "wing" orientation is determined by its position.


That's exactly like a Professor Cube.


Gigaminx is absoultely amazing! Wonderful job!

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Now's a good time to post my all time favourite five puzzle constructions. It's the only way I can say how good this creation is.

1- Gigaminx
2- 7x7x7
3- Master Octahedron
4- 6x6x6
5- Master Pyraminx

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WOW!!!!


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Tony Fisher wrote:
Now's a good time to post my all time favourite five puzzle constructions. It's the only way I can say how good this creation is.

1- Gigaminx
2- 7x7x7
3- Master Octahedron
4- 6x6x6
5- Master Pyraminx
Mine is similar.

1- Gigaminx
2- Gigaminx
3- Gigaminx
4- Gigaminx
5- Gigaminx

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Goddamn now I have to clean my [Censored. Please be nice!] keyboard from all the drooling. Thank you very much!


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StefanPochmann wrote:
Goddamn now I have to clean my [Censored. Please be nice!] keyboard from all the drooling. Thank you very much!
You sure that's drool?

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LOL! Funny, but try and keep it cleaner... :wink:

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Outstanding. Fabulous idea, great execution.
The most amazing part of this project is your commitment to it. What a great lesson to all of us!
Thanks, and congratulations!


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Quinn Lewis wrote:
LOL! Funny, but try and keep it cleaner... :wink:

Quinn
It could be ice cream. I don't know what you're talking about.

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i thought he meant hot glue... :?


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It has been a great adventure solving the mystery of the existence of the Gigaminx.

From now on, I can only focus on other great mysteries, like Atlantis, time travel, aliens, ghosts and women... :P



Simply, a puzzle out of this world! :)



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I will give you three *almost* new souls for it.

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Wasn't this already posted? Or did you just start a new thread because of the stickers. Great job, I'm just a little confused.

Maybe you can talk to eMachineShop and get it mass produced. There certainly is a market. not sure how expensive that would run.

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Yeah, I started a new post because of the stickers.
It just seems cleaner to me for a new post. Plus this is definitely something I want to show off. :)

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Thanks for the clarification...great mod. I really think you should get that massproduced.

So when do you start on the next level of the minxes?

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Thanks for the clarification...great mod. I really think you should get that massproduced.


Dear God I hope he does. I see it as a win win situation. We all be able to buy the puzzle and he get money for collage. But first we have to get him over the big huge speed bump thats in front of him and that is to get a US Patent and Trademark.

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So when do you start on the next level of the minxes?


I still think you should do a 4x4x4 minx and that'll look awesome also


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How would you break up a 4x4?
The only thing I can think is to put straight cuts through the points of the star dividing the center into pieces. I'm not sure if that would really turn right though. You would certainly have to redo the interior mech.

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But first we have to get him over the big huge speed bump thats in front of him and that is to get a US Patent and Trademark.

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The 4x4 dodecahedron would be an interesting puzzle.
The 2x2 dodecahedron is the same as the Impossiball.

The 4x4 would not turn on a flat plane like the other dodecahedral puzzles and would require undercutting to get the puzzle to move at all; a little like the edges only cube or simple overlapping cube. It could be done as a buildup from the Gigaminx in much the same way that some 4x4x4 designs have an internal 5x5x5 mechanism. This method would require a Gigaminx, or a modified Megaminx with additional pieces to suppore the outside parts of the puzzle in much the same way that the Rubiks 5x5x5 is constructed (expanded puzzle with tracks for the 2nd and 4th layers.

One step at a time though. I just want to play with a Gigaminx. Virtual or real... Time to get the 3D printer!

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Darren Grewe wrote:
But first we have to get him over the big huge speed bump thats in front of him and that is to get a US Patent and Trademark.


You can sell stuff that isn't patented, you're just not protected by someone copying it. Even if he did get a patent, it would be difficult to enforce against an offshore company making knock-offs.


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Wouldn't the 4x4x4 dodecahedron resemble a mix (or minx haha) between a Pyraminx Crystal and a regular Megaminx?

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As everyone else has said: AWESOME build!!! :shock: :D Great Job! Did you end up painting each piece after sanding or using the native surface? I can not believe you hand cut all those stickers. That looks like a major time sink in itself, but they turned out great. Did you ever try the Micromark silicone?

Are you going to do more solidmodel/stereolith of parts for new builds or try something different? Good luck on your next project.

And for those talking about the 4x4x4 dodecahedron I think it was covered in this thread viewtopic.php?t=4209&start=50
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WOW!!!

That's the most intimidating puzzle I think I've ever seen. Just look at the size of it, which I didn't fully appreciate until I saw that pic of it being held by your girlfriend.

So what are your plans? Please tell me you are going to try and market it. PLEASE!!! I'd love to get my hands on one.

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This is one of the most perfect builds ever (not only twisty-puzzle builds :) )
But how did you make the stickers? !!!

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I believe he said they were all hand-cut.

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Yep, all hand cut. Look closely at my avitar and you can see the imperfections.
The last 3 colors were even done without a template and the angles eyeballed (I got good at doing that somewhere along the road)


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