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 Post subject: Help with Fridrich method
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:21 pm 
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Okay, I've memorized the moves from Fridrich's F2L method, and although I can solve the layers much faster, I still have the problem of never seeming to get edge pieces and corner pieces where they need to be!

They are always in some other piece's spot, and I have no clue how to get them out and swapped quickly. I rarely get pieces in the one of the exact 22 positions. Does any have any advice?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:57 pm 
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Nevermind the F2L algs, do it intuitively. It's the best way to start out IMO and it isn't very hard at all.


good luck!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:07 pm 
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Nevermind the F2L algs, do it intuitively


I totally agree with this. Not only does it give your method a sound structure, but also gives you a deeper understanding of the cube's rotation tendencies, and also gives much higher 3D perception, as you have to constantly keep track of the pieces you're dealing with.

As well and good as this approach is, it only lasts so long. I'd say after maybe 3 or 4 months doing it intuitively, its time to look up the fastest and most finger friendly algs. I followed this path, and it was like a "eureka" moment finding algs that only take 6 moves that I was doing with 18 or so! Also, I found that many algs I made myself corresponded a lot with the optimum algs.

OR you could always come up with a new genius method like our friend Gilles Roux. Anyone who can average sub 14 with their own method is truly genius in my mind :wink:

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 Post subject: Cubtrix
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:16 am 
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yes!! feel the cube... use the force luke. You must become the cube to know the cube. For until you become like the cube then you cannot be the cube. Be the cube!

don't forget to take the blue pill.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubtrix
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:09 am 
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sexualRubiks wrote:
yes!! feel the cube... use the force luke. You must become the cube to know the cube. For until you become like the cube then you cannot be the cube. Be the cube!


"There is no cube"

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:11 pm 
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i also agree with skeneegee and Quinn Lewis. i learned F2L on my own without learning algs. i simply learned the idea of F2l and ran with it. im now at a 22 sec average.


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:04 pm 
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Yeah, I did that too, then learned algs, and now I'm sub 14.5 :lol:


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so all u guys just did was learn the LL algs and got it from there?

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:50 pm 
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actually im still learning OLL thats why im not sub-20 yet. but yes understand F2L and then learn good OLL and PLL and then practice practice practice and 3 years later you will be there


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:44 pm 
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Nitro & Xcelerate,
We didn't just learn LL algs and had it from there.
We learned the F2L algs and figured out how they worked.
From there, we applied that knowledge to whatever situation we were presented with (like something in an incorrect spot for instance).

Follow pieces around. See what connects to where and when. Look for patterns or often used sets of moves (like R U R') and look for Doug Reed's Intuitive F2L page (It wouldn't come up for me but it's really worth it)

TBTTyler


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:11 am 
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when i learned F2L, i only learned the ones that involve having at least 1 piece in place that doesnt have to be the right way round, you can solve any CE pair with those algs...

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