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 Post subject: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:07 pm 
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Dear puzzle community

very often I read on this forum that this or that puzzle should be mass produced.
So I thought maybe it is a good idea to focus on this topic in one thread.
My question to you is: Which puzzles you would like to see mass produced?

If there are enough replies it could be a useful hint for the companies and stores.
(I wonder why they dont ask us :-) )

I would like to see ultimate shapeshifting cuboids like the 3x5x7
(I really wonder why these kind of cuboids are still not mass produced.)

Happy puzzling :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Here's my list:
5x5x7
Pentultimate
2x4x6
5x5x3
Master Brillic
Skewb+2x2
Unbandaged Helicopter cube
Curvy Copter Plus
Pyramid scheme
Triangulum
Ghost cube (any order)
Master Axis Cube

Multidodecahedron
Circle (crazy) 5x5
Elite Skewb
Radio crystal
Radio Cube 3
Master helicopter Cube (or Master Curvy Copter)
Megatwist/gigatwist
Dreidel Skewb
Master Starminx
Split Jing's Pyraminx
Royal Pyraminx
Comboctahedron
Hexagon-1
I'll add more as I think of them. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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I'd like to see higher ordered versions of puzzles I already love:

Master FTO
Elite Kilominx
Examinx
Rayminx


A non-pillowed higher ordered Pyraminx
And benpuzzle's Master Rex Cube :) , those kinds of things.


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The master FTO looks like a good candidate. There is already one of the dayan gems which is a mod of the dino skewb, which can be relatively easily built into a master FTO.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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leonid wrote:
Top three for me:

Little Chop
Pyracue
Super Octocube


The Super OctoCube is possibly on its way from MF8 as the SunCube. They have had it in development since before I had my design and it seems like a mass produced version could be coming out.

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Every David Pitcher's puzzles (at least some, please)
sun cube
Master little chop
Dreidel cube
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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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For me, the top will be :
Radio cube 3

And, why not also :
master starminx
master curvy copter plus

and cuboids :
5x5x3
3x5x7
2x4x6
4x4x2


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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alacoume wrote:
4 4 2


WitEden made a 4x4x2 probably a year ago now :)

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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martywolfman wrote:
alacoume wrote:
4x4x2


WitEden made a 4x4x2 probably a year ago now :)

It was not a camouflage cube ? It turns like a 4x4x2 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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alacoume wrote:
martywolfman wrote:
alacoume wrote:
4x4x2


WitEden made a 4x4x2 probably a year ago now :)

It was not a camouflage cube ? It turns like a 4x4x2 ?


Nope , it turns like a regular 4x4x2. It has all the same pieces/ core etc as the rest of the camouflage cube series, but since it's 4x4 on the large side, nothing is bandaged there, the 4x2 sides are essentially 2 layers of a 4x4 glued together, just like it is on any hand made 4x4x2 :)

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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A few things I would like to own a mass-produced version of:

My Hex Crystal, preferably in six colors of translucent plastic.
A series of Grimace-type puzzles in the shape of star bipyramids. The Pentagrammic Bipyramid and 7/3 Heptagrammic Bypyramid in particular.
UFO shape modded into a triabgular bypyramid composed entirely of golden gromons(i.e. a triable whose edge lengths are the ratio of 1:1:phi)
Skewb, 2*2*2, and 3*3*3 shapemods in the shape of an elongated hexagonal bipyramid constructed of golden rectanglesand golden triangles.
A shapeshifting puzzle that is spherical when solved, but not a sphere in all non-solved states. For example, a skewb ball or 3*3*3 ball whose axis intersection is not the geometric center of the sphere.
A rhombic Triacontahedron, even if its just a shapemod.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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It looks like there is some hope out there that the Master starminx is mass produced. I doubt any company would be willing to take on the challenge of producing it (some of the part shapes are pretty complicated). I would be very open to working with someone to make this happen though.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Hello,

thank you very much for your replies :-)

I have the impression (up to now) that we tend to get more challenging puzzles (master versions/ higher order puzzles, etc.)

My idea was to help the companies with our feedback to become even more customer orientated.
So I would like to encourage you to keep on with this "wish list".


Happy puzzling :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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These are the top 3 on my list.

1 - 3x3x3 Dino Cube
2 - 3x3x3 Super Octocube
3 - Master Curvy Copter


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- Curvy Copter + 3x3x3 by Will_57
- Curvy Copter Skewb by Luke
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- Master Starminx by Eric Vergo
- Multi Dodecahedron by TomZ
- Novaminx by Luke
- Pentagram by Eric Vergo
- Starminx III by Andrew Cormier

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Master Rex Cube
Little Chop
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Curvy Copter Plus
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Ghost Cube!!!!!!!!!!!!
Master FTO
All of the non-shape mod gear puzzles
5x5x3
The original geometry of all the Dayan Gems
The X-Minx by Oskar van Deventer he recently put on shapeways

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Looking through the responses so far I think we can safely say a lot of people would like a lot of puzzles mass produced! :lol:
I think for a thread like this to have any (teeny tiny) effect on what producers decide to produce next you would need to limit it to one or two choices from each member and provide a running total so we could see which is the most sought after puzzle.

@gingervergo I can live without the Master Starminx but what about Bram's Brick?? Or at least make it available for purchase on Shapeways!! Please!


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Whenever I see topics like this I always think it's pointless to respond, so I don't. But I'll indulge myself this time.

I want to see the Master FTO more than anything else, I think. And higher-order ones too, but I'll settle for that one.


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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I would like to see David Pitcher's Rotoprism 2 mass produced, as well as Tom Z's Helicopter Skewb. I was surprised that no one had mentioned the Rotoprism 2 yet. Also, there are a LOT of other puzzles that I would like to be mass produced, this is only if I had to pick two.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Jared wrote:
Whenever I see topics like this I always think it's pointless to respond, so I don't. But I'll indulge myself this time.

I want to see the Master FTO more than anything else, I think. And higher-order ones too, but I'll settle for that one.


Maybe you are right. But on the other hand I thought there are more than 3000 members in this forum. And I could imagine that we need heaps of replies to get recognized :-)
So let´s keep on...


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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^3000+ members, many of whom have never posted and most of whom have made neglible contributions to the site.

That said, demand alone isn't enough to get something mass-produced. Many of the most wanted puzzles have over a dozen unique parts with most parts being quite complicated in shape and any cutting of corners in the manufacturing process could lead to poorly or even non-functioning puzzles. Simply put, many of the puzzles the community most wants mass produced are things any for-profit puzzle maker would be crazy to attempt without a very large safety net.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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I've always wanted to see a 4x4 mastermorphinx, when the stickerless 3x3 mastermorphinx was released I was really hopeful, what really confused me is it only needs 7 new moulds to make a stickerless version of the 4x4.
As for other ones:
proportional 4x4x2
5x5x3
6x6x4
The ghost cubes
5x5x7
barrel megaminx
master axis cube
dino skewb
2x4x6
3x5x7
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I'd like to see a Crazy Gigaminx Series.
Also puzzles by Traiphum, Ben, Ffenning, Luke and Eitan.


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I would love Oskar's Geared Mixup to be mass produced. I love the mixup cube and I love every single geared puzzle out there. As I can't afford to get it off of shapeways, it would definitely be awesome if it became mass produced.


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Btw, why the 4x4x4 Bandaged Kit has not been mass produced up to now?
I could imagine that one reason might be, that the shops would like to sell each bandaged puzzle seperately :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles that we would like to see mass produced
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Here are some puzzles I'd like to see mass produced:
2x4x4 (Shapeways)
Examinx
Proportional 3x3x6, 3x3x7
Face turning icosahedron (I want all the platonic solids!)

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Face turning icosahedron (I want all the platonic solids!)

This has already been mass-produced. It is called Eitan's Star. They are available for purchase for $99. It is very very very very very very very hard.

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I would give my frontal lobe for a Ghost Cube series. Seriously. Any takers?

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Personally I would love to see the Ghost Cubes being mass-produced, especially the 3x3x3 one.

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BelcherBoy2000 wrote:
Colin wrote:
Face turning icosahedron (I want all the platonic solids!)
This has already been mass-produced. It is called Eitan's Star. They are available for purchase for $99. It is very very very very very very very hard.
Yes, Eitan's Star (Gelatinbrain 2.1.3) has been mass produced. (And no, it's not very very very very very very very hard (unless you jumble it); it just takes a while -- there are a lot of pieces.)

But (no disrespect to Eitan) IMO the "most natural" version of any Platonic solid is the shallowest planar cut version. In this case that would be this one

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(Jason's Radiolarian II, my FTI, Gelatinbrain 2.1.1).

I would love to see that mass produced, before anything else that has been mentioned here. (Obviously, I'm biased :) ). Also, as mentioned, non-pillowed Halpern-Meier pyramid (the most natural tetrahedron). I wrote a simulator for that back in 1981, have wanted one ever since.


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Here's my top list:
Master FTO
Master Pentultimate
Twisted-8
Rotoprism 2
Eitan's ETO
Higher order bandage kits
All of Will_57's Rhombic dodecahedra & triacontahedra
Starminx IV(edge-turning)
I forget what it's called but the vertex turning dodecahedron in RubixFreakGreg's logo
Betaminx,Gammaminx, etc.
A double-circle cube
Prisminx Crystal
All of Evgeniy's slim puzzles
Radio cube 3
Master Hexultimate
Gigahexaminx
Cubic Face-turning Starminx
FTO with centers
Circle FTO
Rainbow 3x3
Timur's F-skewb and Scalium
Any star polyhedra(great stellated dodecahedron, pentagrammic snub antiprism, 7/3 snub antiprism)

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bhearn wrote:
But (no disrespect to Eitan) IMO the "most natural" version of any Platonic solid is the shallowest planar cut version.

IMO a "natural" version of a platonic solid is one where:
1.Faces have a center(excludes current FTO)
2. Each edge touches 2 corners
3. One edge per edge
4. One corner per corner
5. Centers are fixed
6. Extra pieces may split the corner if there are more than 3 faces at a vertex(octahedron&icosahedron)

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rayray_2561 wrote:
bhearn wrote:
But (no disrespect to Eitan) IMO the "most natural" version of any Platonic solid is the shallowest planar cut version.
IMO a "natural" version of a platonic solid is one where:
1.Faces have a center(excludes current FTO)
2. Each edge touches 2 corners
3. One edge per edge
4. One corner per corner
5. Centers are fixed
6. Extra pieces may split the corner if there are more than 3 faces at a vertex(octahedron&icosahedron)
I think these criteria are actually the same as "shallowest planar cut version". Which means, actually, that there should be a shallower cut icosahedron, that I don't believe has been built yet (or is it one of Jason's?), and is not on Gelatinbrain. And I agree with you about the FTO.


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bhearn wrote:
Which means, actually, that there should be a shallower cut icosahedron, that I don't believe has been built yet (or is it one of Jason's?), and is not on Gelatinbrain.
... however, this icosahedron is functionally identical to the Radiolarian II / my FTI, except that the non-moving centers would serve to identify the faces. Same goes for FTO.


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bhearn wrote:
But (no disrespect to Eitan) IMO the "most natural" version of any Platonic solid is the shallowest planar cut version. In this case that would be this one

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(Jason's Radiolarian II, my FTI, Gelatinbrain 2.1.1).
I'd agree that this is shallower then Eitan's Star... but this isn't the shallowest planar cut version. All 3 of these (Jason's Radiolarian II, your FTI, and Gelatinbrain 2.1.1) are cut deep enough to remove the face center, from the surface of the puzzle, that only rotates and is attached to the core. This pieces should still be present on the shallowest planar cut version. Though I guess unless you are solving a super stickered version it doesn't make much difference.

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however, this icosahedron is functionally identical to the Radiolarian II / my FTI, except that the non-moving centers would serve to identify the faces. Same goes for FTO.
I think we are in agreement. Jason called it the Cornered Radiolarian (a variant on Radiolarian 1). Here it is... however this one doesn't use planar cuts. Still its the same puzzle.... or is it? This is missing super small pieces that should be around the corners. Maybe the shallowest planar cut version hasn't been made yet.
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The shallowest planar cut version would be the Radiolarian 1.5 that is mentioned in that post.

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wwwmwww wrote:
Jason called it the Cornered Radiolarian (a variant on Radiolarian 1). Here it is... however this one doesn't use planar cuts. Still its the same puzzle.... or is it? This is missing super small pieces that should be around the corners. Maybe the shallowest planar cut version hasn't been made yet.

P.S.S. Here is the post I was looking for:
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The shallowest planar cut version would be the Radiolarian 1.5 that is mentioned in that post.
Right, I don't believe it's been made. Yes, it looks like it might be what Jason calls the Radiolarian 1.5. Interesting that he called it too trivial to be made... at least some of us seem to be in agreement that it's in some sense the "most natural" FTI.

Which is funny, because I was definitely thinking in terms of what the most natural FTI was when I designed mine. I wonder whether I perhaps went though this line of reasoning before, and figured that 2.1.1 was essentially the same as the shallower one, but more economical to build? The shallower-cut version would have to be a fair amount larger, for equivalently sized smallest pieces.

Somewhere I have some drawings from I think 1981 when I first started wondering what an FTI would look like. I'll have to track them down and see what I was thinking then.


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The puzzle I'd love to see mass produced is The Axisminx


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I had convinced myself not to print 1.5! How ironic that there's interest in that one. Sounds like there is though, and it would be nice if the series had 16. :) Let me dig through my files tonight... it was a buildup on Radiolarian 3 I'm positive.

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For those who want the Ghost cube I'ts coming soon from Mefferts.

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