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 Post subject: Jason's Golden Orb
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:15 am 
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I'm happy to present the Golden Orb. It's a higher order version of the vintage Parker Brothers puzzle "The Orb", and a step above the Silver Orb. Instead of 4 or 5 tracks of beads, it has 6 tracks.

It has been plated with copper, chrome, then gold. Two vintage orbs donated beads for this puzzle. The white and black are 3d printed.

The rows of beads have the following counts (8-22-30-30-22-8). The number of beads are dictated by the geometry, and the fact that the smallest rows have 8 beads.


This orb can stop in 5 positions BETWEEN each 180 degree turn. They are all shown in the photos below.
Now that there are an even number of rows, there's an exact halfway position again. But instead of the 2 orbits in the halfway position on the original Orb, this puzzle has three orbits.

Thanks for looking!


In this thread, the Silver Orb was shown:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=25812

In this thread, we discussed the number of beads that should be used on this puzzle;
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25810


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:43 am 
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Drool!!! :shock:

I really enjoyed my original orb puzzle but the cheap plastic was always off putting. Now this on the other hand looks absolutely stunning and also would appear to be a real challenge too!

Thank you for showing it! I repeat....... Drool!!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Hey Jason, that looks great! How'd you get the plating finish to be so smooth? I've never been able to electroplate anywhere near that well. The finish is so mirror smooth that we can see your whole photobox in the reflection.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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I've got to say, that I'm a huge fan of these. Truly spectacular!

But I feel the need to warn people.. if they ever think they want an Orb-It, they better get on ebay soon, before you make the next ones in the series :shock: !!

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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It makes me want to buy an Orb-it.

And i've always maintained that I didn't like the look of them until now.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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I think you made a really great & beautiful but one thing I really want to ask:

How do you shoot such a nice pic without reflecting the image of your camera? :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Nice puzzle, the plating makes this something special.
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How do you shoot such a nice pic without reflecting the image of your camera? :shock:
It is reflected in the puzzle, but it is hard to see because he is using a light tent.
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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Wow! Beautiful!
Definitely a "Flawless Victory" if I ever saw one!


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Burgo wrote:
Truly spectacular!

Truly specular! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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I love the last image with the series.
What about the version with only (?) three layers?


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Thanks! you guys!

bmenrigh wrote:
Truly specular! :lol:

Ha! A computer graphics joke! :D

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Hey Jason, that looks great! How'd you get the plating finish to be so smooth? I've never been able to electroplate anywhere near that well. The finish is so mirror smooth that we can see your whole photobox in the reflection.

I used a classic car parts restoration company. I think they are used to having to buff/polish things that can be quite rough. I send the parts as polished WSF. I could believe they polish, then they plate with copper or another buffing base, and then polish again until they get the nice finish. They charge based on labor plus materials, and I think this was about $200 to plate. Chrome was about half I think.


Andreas Nortmann wrote:
I love the last image with the series.
What about the version with only (?) three layers?

Aw, man, ..... why did you have to ask that? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Wow that's a gorgeous puzzle! I've never owned a sliding bead puzzle but this makes me want to look into them

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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JasonSmith wrote:
I used a classic car parts restoration company. I think they are used to having to buff/polish things that can be quite rough. I send the parts as polished WSF. I could believe they polish, they plate with copper or another budding base, and then polish again until they get the nice finish. They charge based on labor plus materials, and I think this was about $200 to plate. Chrome was about half I think.
This is gorgous. You should show this to someone at Shapeways and put them in touch with this car parts restoration company. They should offer this as a service.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Shiny!! I would hang them from my xmas tree!

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
I love the last image with the series.
What about the version with only (?) three layers?
Square Mixup by KRYSTIAN & OSKAR pretty well covers the 2 layer version. Their bead count would be (12-12) and they've managed to give the beads orientation information.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Incredibly beautiful!

Probably the best Christmas ornament someone has ever given me!

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P.S. It *is* a Christmas gift for me, right? (please, please, please Santa Smith!)

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Hah! This thread has forced me to purchase an Orb-it on Ebay. I got one for £13.00 which I think is the equivilent to $20.00....have I been conned or is that a reasonable price?

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Gus wrote:
It is reflected in the puzzle, but it is hard to see because he is using a light tent.
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Oh I see that after you point it out! Thanks. May be I should get a tent later as well!


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Wow, what a beautiful looking puzzle.

AndyChilly wrote:
Hah! This thread has forced me to purchase an Orb-it on Ebay. I got one for £13.00 which I think is the equivilent to $20.00....have I been conned or is that a reasonable price?

I'm not sure whats a reasonable price, but I also bought one recently too for the same price, I did get a 'plastic dome' box with it though - and a little booklet enclosed too.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Very beautiful puzzle! Would the next order up be a platinum orb? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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Considering that it is a vintage puzzle and it's becoming rare because people are harvesting the beads ( joke jajaja) 20$ it's a good price tag, mine costed 18 dollars

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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$20 is about right. You can get one with rough plastic for cheaper. Good for bead harvesting. :) Some sellers have been asking $40 or $50 which is a rip-off.

By the way, how many beads would be in the middle row of a three row orb, where the top and bottom rows have 8 beads? Remember it needs to be an even number. (I know the answer. :) )

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Congrats to this beautiful looking puzzle. Great design


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It's so beautiful and so different . Congratulations!


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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JasonSmith wrote:
By the way, how many beads would be in the middle row of a three row orb, where the top and bottom rows have 8 beads?
Answer: -Sixteen-. This makes me suspect that a three-row orb may be rather easy to solve, or perhaps not?

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Good mail service from Ebay seller.

My Orb Arrived this morning. I'm at work so I can't test this, but when all the beads are in the same orbit its really hard to move them. Will cube lube sort that out?

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Golden Orb
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A little silicone may actually help. The puzzles generally have very smooth tracks and beads, but that move is still a bit hard. I should say my higher order orbs also require the player to work the beads around when all tracks are combined. WSF plus metal plating is still a bit stickier than production plastic even after sanding.

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AndyChilly wrote:
Good mail service from Ebay seller.

My Orb Arrived this morning. I'm at work so I can't test this, but when all the beads are in the same orbit its really hard to move them. Will cube lube sort that out?


On an older puzzle that was made in the 80's, the years have made the puzzle more difficult to turn, especially if it hasn't been played with.

So, lube is a perfectly reasonable way to loosen the puzzle up a bit. I used silicone spray, and my orb works better than it did 30 years ago.

As for price, $20 is reasonable, i believe. It depends on how quickly you want it and how much ti. You have to buy it. If you can sit around and wait for the perfect deal, you may get one cheaper, but it will probably take quite a bit of time watching a number of different auctions before you find one that slips by other bidders. Not worth the time, IMO. $20 for a working puzzle is a good deal. Not spectacular, but considering all factors, you paid pretty much what the market bears on that puzzle.


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