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 Post subject: Nonaphobic
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:13 am 
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Well today I finished the 3D design for the addon pieces to a 9x9x9 cube to make a Nonaphobic (9x9x9 Mastermorphix):
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I made it pillowed in order to keep the overall size down (although it is still 170mm along an edge) and to do this I "cheated" by using Inventor to do the parts with chamfers and shelled, and then did some tidy up using SketchUp. However, when I did an estimate of the printing costs, it came out as about $440, which is not surprising as there are 386 parts. This is way outside my puzzle budget (says my wife) and so it is unlikely that I will ever make this, and it would be a beast to assemble and sticker.
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Anyway, since I've done most of the work I thought I'd post here for your delight and delectation :D

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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It looks amazing,

I take it this isn't something you would want to very slowly hand mod then?

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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amazing job!
but I need to show this topic to my wife right now, because she's still thinking (don't know why) that I'm a maddest guy in the world :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Hand mod! I'm not Traiphum! I bought the 9x9x9 I was going to mod, and showed it to a friend. He was amazed that something like this could exist, and when I told him that I was going to cut into it to make another puzzle ... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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You should contact Claus!
Maybe he can print it... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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I dare you to make it non-pillowed. But seriously, it's impressive...

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Perfect job!!!

Is it only pillowed or reuleaux?

The costs by printing in FDM will cost less than 55 Eurocent for each cm^3. How big ist it?


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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clauswe wrote:
Is it only pillowed or reuleaux?
It is pillowed to reduce the overall size and to minimise the cut depth into the cube corners.
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The costs by printing in FDM will cost less than 55 Eurocent for each cm^3. How big ist it?
The total volume of all the parts (386) is just under 500cm^3, thus giving a cost by FDM of 275EUR. At Shapeways this would be 323EUR + postage. The actual costs at Shapeways are 1.04 EUR for the first 20cm^3 and then 0.52 EUR for the rest, giving a price of 269 EUR. But then I have to add tax at 20%, handling charge and postage :(

The walls are either 1mm thick for the larger parts (corners, long thin trapezoids) and 0.9mm thick for the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Gus wrote:
This is way outside by puzzle budget (says my wife) and so it is unlikely that I will ever make this, and it would be a beast to assemble and sticker.
It is the duty (?) of our wifes to stop us in case of madness.
This tells a lot about Rox' collection.


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
It is the duty (?) of our wifes to stop us in case of madness.
This tells a lot about Rox' collection.

It doesn't explain mine though! :shock:
I can only assume she's happy if I'm in my study and out from under her feet!


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Puzzlemad wrote:
Andreas Nortmann wrote:
It is the duty (?) of our wifes to stop us in case of madness. This tells a lot about Rox' collection.
It doesn't explain mine though! :shock:!
If you marry a man called Puzzlemad you get what you deserve :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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It looks great, Gus.
I wonder if Traiphum printed his or made it using molds?
Did you ask him?


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Vadim wrote:
It looks great, Gus.
I wonder if Traiphum printed his or made it using molds?
Did you ask him?
My Traiphum's 4x4x4 looks molded for sure.

EDIT: Maybe, I'm wrong (I'm not at home right now) and it is plastic sheet as Gus posted below. It looks perfect, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Vadim wrote:
It looks great, Gus.
I wonder if Traiphum printed his or made it using molds?
Did you ask him?
As far as I can find out, this is the first 9x9x9 version of this puzzle. I know that for a lot of his other versions, Traiphum builds his own extensions using plastic sheet.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Hi Gus,
No, he had this puzzle completed with stickers and a video on youtube for a while now.
You can find it on his Facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/traiphumpuzzle

He posted it's photo on 4th June this year.
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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Someone should get Traiphum to post some images of the Nonaphobic (btw, I came to the same name by coincidence) here so it can be added to the museum.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Gus wrote:
Someone should get Traiphum to post some images of the Nonaphobic (btw, I came to the same name by coincidence) here so it can be added to the museum.


does it mean a fear of 9's?

that is crazy if you both arrived at that name seperately.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Gus wrote:
(btw, I came to the same name by coincidence).

Did you choose the name because of his previous Octaphobic puzzle?

http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/pdb-se ... Octaphobic

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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The latter version of this puzzle all have the -phobic suffix, and the prefix comes from here.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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That's correct!
So it's more logical continuation of the naming convention, rather than pure coincidence...
That's what I'm saying... as -phobic suffix was already used by Traiphum.


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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Konrad wrote:
Vadim wrote:
It looks great, Gus.
I wonder if Traiphum printed his or made it using molds?
Did you ask him?
My Traiphum's 4x4x4 looks molded for sure.

EDIT: Maybe, I'm wrong (I'm not at home right now) and it is plastic sheet as Gus posted below. It looks perfect, though.
I looked at my Traiphum Megamorphix with a magnifying glass and I cannot imagine that such a smooth surface can ever be made using plastic sheets.

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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I suspect that Traiphum is the master of working with plastic sheets (no offence intended Tony :D ).

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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I recall that traiphum either bought or made square tubes of plastic, which makes a lot of sense for when you're extending square shapes outwards.

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I thought, based on the reported weight of aall of his puzzles, Traiphum used a fairly generous amount of sculpt in his mods. It sounds different than Sunwinder's mods, which are cut plastic sheet. I don't know anything about modding but that's my speculation

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 Post subject: Re: Nonaphobic
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Traiphum sent me a pm and said that his nonaphobic weighs 0.7kg, and could be used as a dumbbell!

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