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 Post subject: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:52 am 
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Hi,

while browsing other online collection I (re)discovered two items I need help with:
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This cylinder also appears in this old thread.
Can somebody translate that text?
Does anybody have more images/information about this one?

The second item is this:
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Here is the original link.
I do not know anything about this puzzle

Andreas


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 Post subject: Re: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzz
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:52 am 
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Via some image editing I extracted the text as:
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And then via some OCR and touch up work, I turned that into:
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Cylinder

Anders zit het met de 10-rij cylinder. waarbij het er om gaat allemaal verschillende kleuren onder elkaar te krijgen. Let op: hij zit in de goede volgorde verpakt! Wie draait is verloren. Volgens het bijschrift zijn er 'billion possibilities', door Vie vertaald als een miljard mogelijkheden. Ik kijk ongelovige. maar hij zegt dat het waar is ook.

Vie: een wanhoop. Zelfs het begin is vrijwel onmogelijk; je kan het bovendien niet in een oogopslag zien.
vL.: Volgens mij zijn er regels te bedenken, maar ik weet 7e neit.
Vie: Hij is wel mooi verzorgd, loopt goed.
vL.: hoe lang duurt deze als je gewoon probeert?
Vie: zonder regels? Een miljard seconden, eh, 63 jaar. Dat valt dus erg mee.


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Cylinder

Else about the 10-cylinder row. where the aim is to get all different colors among themselves. Please note that it is packaged in the right order! Who turns is lost. According to the caption, there are 'billion possibilities', translated by Vie as a billion possibilities. I look incredulous. but he says that it's true too.

Vie: a despair. Even the beginning is almost impossible, you can not also see at a glance.
vL:. I think there are rules to remember, but I know 7th dyna.
Vie: He is nicely taken care of, runs well.
vL:. how long does this if you just try?
Vie: without rules? A billion seconds, uh, 63 years. That is not so bad.


The caption reads "The 10-cylinder puzzle with millions of options 9.95"

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 Post subject: Re: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzz
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:39 am 
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A better translation:

Cylinder

It's different with the 10-row cylinder, where the aim is to get all different colors under each other. Please note that it is packaged in the right order! Who turns the puzzle is lost. According to the leaflet, there are 'billion possibilities', translated by Vie as a 'miljard mogelijkheden. I look as if I dont believe this, but he says that it's correct.

Vie: a despair. Even the beginning is almost impossible, you can not see it at a glance.
vL:. I think rules can be made, but I dont know them.
Vie: He is nicely made, turns well.
vL:. how long does this take if you just try?
Vie: without rules? A billion seconds, uh, 63 years. That is not so bad.

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 Post subject: Re: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzz
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:28 pm 
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There is some more info in this thread about the Cylinder puzzle.


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 Post subject: Re: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzz
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:17 am 
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Vie, must be Leon Vié. He weekly published a “breinbreker” (lit. brain breaker) in the Dutch newspaper “NRC Handelsbald” for many years (I recall until his passing in the late 80’s, not sure though).

Wonderful little gems, these breinbrekers. He published: Vié, Léon: Denk mee met Léon Vié. De leukste en moeilijkste problemen uit de befaamde puzzelrubriek van NRC-Handelsblad. Amsterdam: H.W.J. Becht, 1984. Still available online (used).

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 Post subject: Re: The museum needs help III: One old and one handmade puzz
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:26 am 
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Thank you for your help.
I will enter this too.


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