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 Post subject: What do have these puzzles in common? - A puzzling mystery
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:32 am 
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I have posted about some of these puzzles here:

My dodecahedra family

gingervergo's Master Pentultimate

Luke's Curvy Copter & RubixFreakGreg's Micro Master Pentultimate

wwwmwww's Bubbloid122

Review of Shapeways Puzzles

David Pitcher's Face Turning Dodecahedron and Burgo's gift

No, they are NOT all Shapeways puzzles. Some are mass-produced, too:

TomZ's and Calvin's 4x4x6

TomZ's and mf8's 3x4x5

and two mass-produced Curvy Copter's and two Flowerminx from Meffert's / DLitwin and a Venus Cube from Meffert's / grigr and a 2x2x4 (Can you read the signature? Maybe, if you enlarge it, you can read "Sandy") and a Square 2 by Calvin (hknowstore) / DLitwin.

Some more Shapeways puzzles:

TomZ's Multi Dodecahedron

TomZ's Master Face Turning Octahedron

TomZ's Dino 3x3x3

TomZ's Open source 4x4x6

A parcel with 5 TomZ's puzzles

Brief review of my TomZ Christmas puzzles

Yes, a lot of TomZ's puzzles, but others too!

Vergo's Cube by gingervergo

TomZ's Mini Starminx

TomZ's Mini Pentultimate

TomZ's Dino Skewb

TomZ's Curvy Copter

OK, here they are out of this box in full sunshine :wink:

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This little Octahedron at your right, close to the Bubbloid was casted by will_57. His first casted puzzle ever! As it seems, that was a long time ago (I think he was thirteen then). I wrote in a PM to him at that time that he should become a famous puzzle designer and I would own the very first handmade puzzle of this famous designer. And look what he has designed since then!

Recently, I got these two puzzles from Germany and they are included in my question as well:
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I have posted in the "Rare puzzle thread"
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Now, what do all these puzzles have in common?

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Ok.. I will bite it off and post the most stupid yet correct answer there is: They are all yours ;)


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They were all invented by people from this very forum?

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What about I either own them now or want to own them in the future? :lol:

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All the puzzles have stickers. :scrambled:

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Will all of those puzzles soon be placed on eBay? I hope that's what they share in common.

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Yes, I'm going with something in common with the inventors - i.e. all invented by people on the forums. But I think there's more to it than that.

Can't be "cut" shape - at first I thought dodec cuts, but that's not it.

Can't be all face turning either b/c of the helicopter variants.

Hmmm, still thinking.

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I think they are all more complicated or enhanced versions of another simple puzzle maybe?

Cuboids instead of a 3x3x3. Obvious variants of the megaminx. Curvy instead of regular helicopter.

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Kattenvriendin wrote:
Ok.. I will bite it off and post the most stupid yet correct answer there is: They are all yours ;)
True, but would that be a mystery? :wink:
Jorbs3210 wrote:
They were all invented by people from this very forum?
This is true, but I'm looking for a more precise answer. I add to my question "What do have the designers or sellers of these puzzles in common?
Puzzlemad wrote:
What about I either own them now or want to own them in the future? :lol:
Same answer as to Kattenvriendin.
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All the puzzles have stickers. :scrambled:
How mysterious is that? :wink:
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Will all of those puzzles soon be placed on eBay? I hope that's what they share in common.

Chris
Soon? They may be sold by my heirs, but I surely hope that is not soon. :) I have never sold a single puzzle up to now.
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Yes, I'm going with something in common with the inventors - i.e. all invented by people on the forums. But I think there's more to it than that. ...

Hmmm, still thinking.
Correct. Hint: Sandy is not the designer of the 2x2x4 (Hidetoshi is). What connects him with designers like Eric Vergo? It is NOT that Sandy runs this site and the others are members. More specific...

So: What do have these puzzles in common?
rephrased to: What do have the designers or sellers of these puzzles in common?

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All the designers participate in the PAW project?

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Correct Lucie! :)
first post in the PAW thread wrote:
United States: Today
• Berkeley, Nan Ma [schuma]
• CA Bay Area, Dave [DLitwin]
• Vancouver WA, Landon [GuiltyBystander]
Canada: Early October 2012
• Mississauga Ontario, Sandy [Sandy]
United States: Mid October 2012
• Amherst NY, Dan [DKwan]
• Rochester NY, Eric [gingervergo]
• Ridgefield CT, Ben [benf207]
• Weston MA, Will [will_57]
• Swampscott MA, Dave [David Pitcher]
United Kingdom: Late December 2012
• Langness Chichester, Luke [Luke]
• Brighton, Julian [julian]
Norway: Later January 2013
• Sandnes Rogaland, Katja [KatjaH]
Denmark: Mid February 2013
• Valby, Sigurd [Sigurd]
Netherlands: Early March 2013
• Nieuwegein, Tom [TomZ]
Germany: Mid March 2013
• Koblenz, Andreas [Andreas Nortmann]
• Bruckmuehl, Konrad [Konrad]
• Cologne, Claus [clauswe]
France: Late April 2013
• Sevenans, Greg [RubixFreakGreg]
Russia: Mid May 2013
• Cheboksary, Evgeniy [grigr]
Hong Kong: Late May 2013
• Causeway Bay, Fan Yuk [excalvin]
Australia: Mid June 2013
• NSW Central Coast, [Burgo]
United States: Late June 2013
• Arizona, Carl [wwwmwww]
OK, a few adjustments of that schedule were necessary (I got the puzzle around the time that was planned for my antipode Burgo :wink: )

When I saw the list of PAW (Puzzle Around the World) participants the first time, I found that I could split them into several categories. The puzzle designers built one large group and I recognized that I had already many puzzles -3D printed or mass-produced - in my collection designed by these well known TP celebrities.
I had (designed by)
. two Flowerminx and a Square 2 by Dave (DLitwin)
. Vergo's Cube and the Elite Skewb by Eric (gingervergo)
. many by Tom (TomZ)
. Venus Cube by Evgeniy (grigr)
. many from Calvin (excalvin) - OK not designed by him, but several produced by him together with others in this group - and many just sold by him e.g. many mf8 puzzles
Experts will recognize some ordering in this picture:

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To your left are the TomZ puzzles and to your right all the others.
When the PAW was announced, I did not have a puzzle from Gregoire (RubixFreakGreg), David Pitcher, Luke and Carl.
So, I asked Brandon and Burgo for some advice and decided to get these:

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The Bubbloid 122 from Carl, the Curvy Copter Skewb from Luke, the Micro Master Pentultimate from Greg (you see the PAW theme again) and the FTRD (Face Turning Rhombic Dodecahedron) from David Pitcher.

Another idea was born and Burgo, my Australian friend and another PAW participant, made the FTRD for me, while I made a TomZ Helicopter Skewb for him.
Burgo added a little gift, what I called a "vergifted gift" ("vergifted" in German = poisoned). :lol:

On this photo you'll recognize something that looks like an ordinary 2x2x2 in the right part of the picture close to the FTRD assembled and stickered by Burgo:
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Actually, this is something solved not so often by very few people. Burgo, the Master of Bandaged Cubes, has solved it once and said, he will never do this again. So, I was warned and never tried it myself, so far.
(This doesn't break my rule "Never buy a new puzzle unless you have solved all you have got", because it was a gift :lol: )
You can roughly divide this selection into two subgroups:
All TomZ puzzles

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and all others
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When I had assembled and stickered Greg's Micro Master Pentultimate, I decided never to scramble and solve it.
It was the most difficult sticker project ever. I needed eye surgery afterwards (OK, I was joking, but it was a real borderline task for my eyes and I'm overwhelmed by myself that I could produce such a nice result :lol: )
I remembered Eric's pillowed Master Pentultimate and I ordered it as something I could scramble and solve.

Then I saw Evgeniy's Slim 3x3x3 and because I liked it and it came from another PAW participant, I got this as well.
I bought a 2x2x4 from Sandy in addition and asked him to sign it.

Lately, I asked Andreas and Claus and got two puzzles from them.
Here they are with some others out of my box:
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Because I got the German puzzles - the two biggest on the picture - lately, they where not on my earlier photos!)

So, here are all nine puzzles added to my collection, because of my little PAW side project:

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Because I have mass-produced puzzles from Dave only,

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I asked him to make something special for me. I'm patiently waiting until he finds the time to do it. I'm sure that I'll get a surprise parcel once and can add a Bump to this thread :)

Here are the puzzles from Evgeniy
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That nightmare 2x2 is truly a nightmare isn't it :lol: Owning one, and handing it to others is fun to watch, but then they expect you to solve it. NEVER will I do so.

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BUMP of nine months. I'm sure our admin will not complain, though :wink:

I have to report an extraordinary thing: Today is a pretty cloudy day (we call it April Wetter in Germany).
Sometimes the sun came a bit through the clouds.

And then, out of nowhere, this strange object appeared above our garden.

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I'll report in more detail, when this UFO is getting analysed.

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That is one of those elemental sliding puzzles, right?

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1NSAN3 wrote:
That is one of those elemental sliding puzzles, right?
Exactly, Eric :)
Have you enlarged the picture or was it so obvious?

Dave has made Neon #104 for me.
As you might remember, this thread is about my collection of puzzles by PAW designers.
Dave was present already in my collection above as the designer of the Kilominx (which was mass-produced by Meffert's as the Flowerminx).
I wanted to add something more special from David Litwin.
Dave and I agreed just upon a price frame and he made a complete surprise parcel for me.
It came in a nice box:

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Dave had already announced that he would use a colour scheme that is somehow related to both of us.
I guessed correctly that it is the TP colour scheme blue & white and a bit of yellow.

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And Dave said that there would be another theme connecting both of us.
I had no idea, but he said I would recognize it immediately.

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This pattern looks familiar, right?

Note for new members: The PAW project was a project run by Brandon Enright to send a Puzzle Around the World.
The PAW puzzle was a Pentultimate designed by Eric Vergo.

As you can see, the UFO landed safely in my hands :lol:

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As you can see the white material looks like "mother of pearl".
I hope you like it, too.
It was not so easy to make these photos (not so much sun on the Bavarian sky.)
I hope that Dave finds them doing justice to his puzzle.

The solved pattern is not the easiest one to imagine. The transparent Pentultimate makes a quite confusing target, I guess.

BTW, blue and white are the colours of Bavaria (Weiß-Blau) and they stand for the Bavarian sky and I take the yellow as the sun shining from this sky :)
I'm not a Bavarian myself, but I live here since the age of nine.
It is the best place in Germany, trust me :wink:

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Whoa that dodecahedron is the mirror acrylic looks amazing!

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That looks like one tough pattern to solve to Konrad! Absolutely beautiful too.

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Konrad, that is stunning! I've been meaning to get an elemental (or2!!) from Dave and have even discussed it with him. I'm aware that I just need to give a sort of price that I'm willing to spend but every single time I've saved up and ready to order, then another puzzle comes up elsewhere FORCING me to spend Dave's money on yet another essential puzzle for my collection!

You have reminded me that it's time to begin saving up again! Maybe I should send instalments? :shock:

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Hey Konrad, since I mostly collect mass produced puzzles I only have a handful of 3D printed ones but the list is growing.

I would like to say that the Elemental is stunning but that I also enjoyed reading about all the wonderful custom puzzles you have accumulated. Thanks for the stimulating read and some fun background to the PAW project and the designers who took part.


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Thanks to all the nice comments!

And thanks to Dave, who is not only a great administrator and moderator, but a great puzzle maker too :D

BTW, Dave, others might be interested as well, so I ask you here what I would had written in a PM, anyway:
How do you cut the material so precisely? Do you use a laser cutter?
If so, would that device be usable for cutting Cubesmith tile sheets?

Elemental:Neon #104, does it mean that you have made 104 Elementals altogether or just 104 Neons?

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Konrad wrote:
BTW, Dave, others might be interested as well, so I ask you here what I would had written in a PM, anyway:
How do you cut the material so precisely? Do you use a laser cutter?
If so, would that device be usable for cutting Cubesmith tile sheets?
I indeed use a laser cutter. As for precision you can read here about the relative accuracy and inaccuracy I have encountered in my years with this device. Experience has taught me it is pretty good, but there are many flaws. As such I cut all my holes small and drill them to size by hand, a major part of the building time.
Konrad wrote:
Elemental:Neon #104, does it mean that you have made 104 Elementals altogether or just 104 Neons?
Each of my Elementals has its own numbering. But even 104 is a bit misleading. My first three Neons (BioHazard was the name up until #20) used acrylic pins before changed the design and restarted the numbering, so really there are 107. And then there were 53 Neon DIY kits, and I don't really count my prototypes.
For my other Elementals I have made:
7 Aluminum
5 Argon
13 Beryllium-10
12 Fluorine
3 Scandium
5 Sulfur
I don't count the two Chromium prototypes.

So the total is just over Elementals 150 built by me, and the DIYs bring the count above 200. Of interest is that although I build a few stock the good majority of them are custom, and unique to the particular customer.

In the case of yours, I wasn't thinking of the PAW in particular, but the fact that we both seem to have a fondness for the Dodecahedron. And I was certainly aware that this particular design would be confusing to solve :)

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hello
that's beautiful house and garden you have there Konrad!

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A bit late but:
This is a very realistic UFO image.
It is clearly photoshopped and the UFO doesn't cast a shadow.

And it is way to beautiful to be realistic.
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AMatureCuber wrote:
hello
that's beautiful house and garden you have there Konrad!

AMC
You see our garden, only. The house is one of our neighbours.
Our house was behind me when I took the photos.
And no, the horses are not ours as well :) (but we like them).

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Konrad wrote:
1NSAN3 wrote:
That is one of those elemental sliding puzzles, right?
Exactly, Eric :)
Have you enlarged the picture or was it so obvious?

(...)

I clicked on the picture and then it suddenly grew :lol:
It was pretty obvious then :wink: Those puzzles have a very unique shape and appearance.

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