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 Post subject: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:59 am 
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I'm a bit known for designing mazes, but now I have made another type of puzzle: a trick lock. The Burgh Lock.

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You can read details about its creation process and the appreciation of the puzzle at MPP10 here.

It's available for ordering at Mfave.


Thanks for looking,

Splinter

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:44 am 
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Interesting. I love trick boxes and haven't seen a 3D printed one. The mechanism must be not be too complex or it wouldn't print right. Is it 100% shapeways printed or are other parts added?

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
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darryl wrote:
Interesting. I love trick boxes and haven't seen a 3D printed one. The mechanism must be not be too complex or it wouldn't print right. Is it 100% shapeways printed or are other parts added?

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Hi Darryl,

Only a few non-plastic 3D printed parts are used.
And alas for your conclusion: the mechanism is complex. And works (that's most important of course)

Reviewers have commented in the link above that it would have made a great Poplock.

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 am 
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I wonder if it possible to design a lock like this which would be impossible to assemble using normal methods, but the mechanism had to be 3D printed already assembled, but would obviously still could be opened?

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:16 pm 
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Gus wrote:
I wonder if it possible to design a lock like this which would be impossible to assemble using normal methods, but the mechanism had to be 3D printed already assembled, but would obviously still could be opened?

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Just a wild thought: if you would print a massive ball in a solid cube (except for some small holes to let the powder out) and the opening of the lock would need tilting of this cube (activated by the ball): yeah, then for example you can have your situation Gus.

Disclaimer: This described mechanism has nothing to do with the mechanism of the Burgh Lock [you'll have to discover its secrets yourself]

O, and I investigated: my MazeRoll is something which cannot be made exactly identical with the 3D-printed version with regular methods:
- injection moulding is not possible due to the flanges in multiple directions that prohibit release in a mould.
- milling is possible, but not for the current straight dead ends. Would end up als somewhat rounder ends

So yes, 3D prints make things possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:32 pm 
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I, too, am a trick lock fan. I designed my own (it includes a maze!) and had it 3D printed, but WSF was too flexible for my purposes (and I couldn't figure out how to put it together, either!). I think that if I can refine my design I'll print it in metal.

On the topic of your lock, I am *very* interested in acquiring one for myself. If I get a summer job, perhaps...but it's on my wish list. I love trick locks and it's so rare to get one that is readily available (the custom ones tend to go fast!).

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
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quicksolver wrote:
I, too, am a trick lock fan. I designed my own (it includes a maze!) and had it 3D printed

Sounds as something for me to implement a maze in a lock; I promoted the lock at Puzzle Place stating it has no blind maze inside because that would be the most logic to expect from me :lol:

Looking forward seeing another WSF trick-lock. :D


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I love trick locks and it's so rare to get one that is readily available (the custom ones tend to go fast!).

I am not limiting production, but 'readily available' is the other end; I also have to put manual labour into the puzzle so the availability is directly related to my labour capacity :?
It's a pity -like Gus's comment- that I cannot have the lock directly printed in assembled state by Shapeways (so you can order it there without having its secrets given away).

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Well I thought I should resurrect this thread to gush and wax lyrical about this lovely puzzle! :D

There seems to be something about the Dutch that leads them to be tremendous puzzle solvers, collectors and designers and we have seen this at several of the Midlands Puzzle Parties over the last year or so. The designer of the Burgh lock puzzle is Dutch as is Louis who regularly makes the trek to the UK just for the party and of course to socialise with us! At the last major party (we had a small one last weekend!) he brought with him the Burgh lock for people to try out.

Made from Shapeways plastic I suspect that many were skeptical. We are, of course, used to very high quality puzzles like the Danlock and the Popplocks. I recall watching a few people play with it during the day and hearing the occasional shout of glee as they solved it. Late in the afternoon, friend and supreme collector and puzzler, Ali solved it and I heard him say that it was magnificent. The key statement for me was when he said that had it been made in metal by Rainer Popp himself then it would well be worthy of the Popplock name. That day I only had a very short time to play with it and duly failed miserably. BUT, having heard his acclaim I knew I would have to get one.

I contacted Splinter via PM and he responded very fast with a link to the Mfave shop where I could place an order.
http://www.mfave.nl/en/webshop/puzzles-26/Burgh_Lock-69

A couple of weeks later, after he had bought the pieces, dyed them and assembled it, it arrived in Sheffield. Much to the disgust of Mrs S who seemed to have answered the door to puzzle deliveries too many times this week!!! :shock:

I have spent a day solving it - I initially managed the original mechanism of solution and later (after encouragement from Splinter) found an even more elegant solution. It is absolutely beautiful, a very clever mechanism and a very pleasant puzzle to solve again and again! It is an absolute bargain at €74.50 plus postage and I am very pleased to have it in my collection. If you are interested in puzzle locks then this is a real collectors piece and you should not hesitate. I know that at least 4 more from the MPP group have also placed orders.

Thanks very much Splinter! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Burgh Lock - Splinter
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:42 pm 
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Sounds like it should be entered in the IPP design competition.

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