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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:18 am 
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In the box there are two references. Eitan star and Oskar icominx.
Good news


Does that probably mean that Oskars Icosaix is also getting massproduced ??
Can you take a picture of that part of the box ?


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Wow, so this is getting made too?! nice!

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I never liked the icosaix. Sorry Oscar, that's just me. :roll:
Anyway. It's cheating. It's like Edges Only Cube and similar puzzle. No planar cut planes. That makes it only half the puzzle it should be in my eyes. No matter how complex the mechanism is.
I don't mind continously curved cutplanes though. Such as found on the Curvy Copter, Prof Pyraminx etc..

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Agreed... a very nice surprise. I'm curious is the Icosaix considered a fudged puzzle due to the "medeling" (for lack of a better word) that Oskar did to hide the hidden pieces in this puzzle? And if so... is this the first mass produced (or soon to me mass produced) fudged puzzle?

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Note that a mass-produced Icosaix is still work in progress. No guarantees about timing or outcome ...

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My order is finally in the mail system, and after months of lying dormant, the tracking number is updated on HK post and USPS! :mrgreen:

I was hoping HKnowstore would ship out the Bauhinia Dodecahedron separately from the Eitan's Star when I ordered back in February, but that's what I get for trying to bundle preorders and in stock items together to save on the shipping... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I'm really impressed with Eitan's Star! My unboxing video. Today I'm off to the NCTM convention in Denver, USA and had to leave it behind. I hope we get some third party stickers for this, to improve the contrast of the standard set and to enable the many exciting sticker variations. :mrgreen:

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Pete the Geek wrote:
I'm really impressed with Eitan's Star! ...
Your video expresses this statement so nicely. :) Thanks for sharing.
I'm looking forward to mine.
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Has anybody in Germany got it, already?

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Just so you know, it's pronounced "ATE-on"

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Just so you know, it's pronounced "ATE-on"

-Eitan

I'm so glad you said that. I've always wondered the correct way to pronounce your name as well. :)

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I might put the correct pronunciation into my signature.

In any case, Pete, thanks for the great review! I'm glad you love the puzzle.

I'm sorry the packaging is so tough to get through. I promise I didn't design it! I wonder why they made it so you have to cut through the names...? Kinda odd...

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pirsquared wrote:
Just so you know, it's pronounced "ATE-on"

-Eitan
:mrgreen: I'll get it right in my next video. Hopefully we will be using it quite a bit over the years when referring to puzzles...

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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pirsquared wrote:
Just so you know, it's pronounced "ATE-on"

-Eitan
I wanted to get this straight and looked it up here
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I have never spoken your name, but I thought always it would be pronounced like above.
BTW, if you read it just as Geman, it should be close to correct.

Do you pronounce your name really with "on" like in "on the bright site of life"?:lol:

BTW, I googled "Eitan Cher" and found you right away. Why do you not include a spoken signature there? :)

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Wow this seems like an awesome puzzle! Congratulations on getting it mass-produced Eitan! :D

It would be interesting to see it stickered with 20 different sticker types.
It's a challenge but I'm sure it's possible using sticker types like reflective ones.

I would definitely buy this if it was cheaper, but I can understand why MF8 made it pricey.

Hopefully they might lower the price soon.


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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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It would be interesting to see it stickered with 20 different sticker types.

What do you mean by 20 different "types"? It does come with 20 different colors.


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Oliver, could you sell some checkered stickers like you do for the tuttminx? :)

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Konrad wrote:
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Just so you know, it's pronounced "ATE-on"

-Eitan
I wanted to get this straight and looked it up here
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BTW, if you read it just as Geman, it should be close to correct.

Do you pronounce your name really with "on" like in "on the bright site of life"?:lol:

BTW, I googled "Eitan Cher" and found you right away. Why do you not include a spoken signature there? :)

That's weird that they know it's from Hebrew, yet have the wrong pronunciation. Here's a quick pronunciation guide I made for the reader at my college graduation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2zO8lh2Y5Y I think the best language for reading my name phoenetically is Spanish. Audio signature is an interesting idea. Thanks.

In any case, thank you for all the great responses so far. Keep them coming!

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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It would be interesting to see it stickered with 20 different sticker types.

What do you mean by 20 different "types"? It does come with 20 different colors.

Oh, I meant by different stickers, not just different colors but also stuff like the Cubesmith chrome and mosaic stickers.


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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Konrad yesterday wrote:
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I'm looking forward to mine.
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OK, it arrived today.
It is my second puzzle from Eitan. It has a nice weight (364 g on my scales.)
No drive to the customs office required.
(My first Eitan puzzle: 440g!! No Shapeways puzzle. Eitan will probably not remember it. :wink: For comparison: A Leslie Tuttminx is 330g))
It turns very well.

I'm not so pleased with the tape around the display box. If I'm supposed to keep that box, mf8 should use a removable tape. The paper tape they use currently will be hard to remove.
Just a little advice :) no criticism.

Thank you Eitan and mf8!

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Konrad, what is the edge length?

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I'm so glad these are finally getting into people's hands. My first solve of a FTI was so satisfying and I hope others get a similar experience. Now if only the one I ordered would finally get to me...

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Konrad, what is the edge length?
65 mm

BTW, I got stickers for 19 faces only. Had anybody else problems like this. I'm not supposed to leave one face black, I hope :lol:

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... My first solve of a FTI was so satisfying and I hope others get a similar experience. ...
Did your first solve include jumbling or was it on Gelatinbrain?
Maybe, we'll see another "How to solve..." thread soon :wink:
I have to wait until my birthday. I'll get it as a gift from my wife :) Once I have stickered it, I will not see it again until June 13th. Ooh my, solving this beast at an age of 67 :( :lol:

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Konrad wrote:
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... My first solve of a FTI was so satisfying and I hope others get a similar experience. ...
Did your first solve include jumbling or was it on Gelatinbrain?

Yes I used Gelatinbrain. I've jumbled and unjumbled Jason's Radiolarian several times and because it's so shallow cut the jumbling is really straight-forward. The jumbling is at least as easy as a Helicopter Cube.

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Maybe, we'll see another "How to solve..." thread soon :wink:
I have to wait until my birthday. I'll get it as a gift from my wife :) Once I have stickered it, I will not see it again until June 13th. Ooh my, solving this beast at an age of 67 :( :lol:

No doubt there will be a "how to solve" thread but it won't be the same without you and your fantastic picture diagrams. Maybe we can get everyone to delay the thread until your birthday :lol:

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My package arrived today, apparently looking like it's gone through a battle zone. My Eitan's Star arrived intact inside it's protective bubble. However, I wish the same could be said for the Dodecahedron. It got crushed in the mail and one of the axes is broke. :( But I'll be making a separate post about that later. The colors are vibrant and surprizingly easy to tell apart for a 20 color puzzle. There are white and gray, then two yellows, three blues, four greens, and a rainbow of hues ranging from burgundy red to lilac, purple, and pink. Surprizingly there's no orange. One color scheme I like to use often is a "rainbow" effect circling the puzzle, with darker hues towards one pole and lighter hues towards the other. This works well for dodecahedrons and by placing like colors near each other where they can be more easily distinguished, reduces the risk of moving a particular color all the way around the puzzle to discover it is the wrong hue. I had wonderful results doing this with cubesmith tiles on a megaminx, with the dark and light hues of each tile color making the two rainbow rings around the pentagons. This also created a light and dark half of the puzzle. Problem with doing a "rainbow" effect with an icosahedron, is figuring out how to arrange five hues about a single corner. I thought about doing the gay triangle with the darks blue, green, and burgundy hues bordering it, then working my way to white. My initial pattern didn't work, but I was to bummed over my "rex dodecahedron" being wrecked to bother assembling the Eitan's Star. I would recommend to people with a little patience to carefully open the case by using a sharp blade like an Exacto or hobby knife to split the seam around the display case so the print on the brown paper is preserved. Then when you seal it up, it will look like you never opened it!

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I received my order today. MF8 did a great job. It turns very well. The only physical issue I've run into is that the caps on the 5-fold corners are somewhat easy to spin in place. I'm going to have to glue them down.

I've jumbled and unjumbled the puzzle a few times now. It's very hard to get significantly jumbled and unjumbling is basically trivial in all cases. The center of the faces is a give-away to the state of a face. There is never a time where you don't know if a face is partially turned or not. On Luke's Novaminx the puzzle is cut deep enough that the face centers (vertices on the Novaminx) are hidden internally and determining the state of a face is hard. The Novaminx is also deep enough that an additional jumbling move is enabled which makes the whole process of unjumbling much harder.

It's great that Eitan's Star jumbles but the jumbling has essentially no impact on the solving experience.

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Bad news for lube haters :lol: :
Konradlast Wednesday wrote:
...It turns very well....
I have to correct myself: After some breaking in and a bit of silicone spray it turns exceptionally well. My wife tested it (she has never turned something more complex than a Rubik's Cube). She just said: phantastic.
In my view, this puzzle is much better than the Bauhinia (Rex) Dodecahedron. (I never said the Bauhinia is bad, just that the Eitan's Star is better). I'm looking forward to my birthday. :D

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I'll double post this that any subscribers will get the news.
Olivér has made a sticker set. You can order it here
I have ordered the 20 colour scheme offered and I'll wait for them before I start stickering.
Maybe I can mix and merge them with the mf8 sticker set to get a nice sticker scheme with well distinguishable colours.

EDIT: I made a notation proposal in this topic in the Solving Forum.

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Wow! So much awesome news! Thanks Oliver for making the stickers available. If you order the stickers from Oliver, be sure to hold on to the logo sticker that came with the puzzle!

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What a wonderful puzzle. Mine finally made it to me! Great job MF8 and Eitan! Here are a few pictures! Puzzle turns so well out of the box.

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stardust4ever wrote:
The colors are vibrant and surprizingly easy to tell apart for a 20 color puzzle. There are white and gray, then two yellows, three blues, four greens, and a rainbow of hues ranging from burgundy red to lilac, purple, and pink. Surprizingly there's no orange.
Mine came with 20 colors including 2 orange which are somewhat similar to each other.

I was expecting it to come with 2 sets of stickers like other MF8 puzzles and was disappointed to find that this wasn't the case.

My paper tape logo on the box was pre-ripped on parts of 3 sides so doing a "clean" cut with an X-Acto knife just wasn't going to work for me.


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Volitar Prime wrote:
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The colors are vibrant and surprizingly easy to tell apart for a 20 color puzzle. There are white and gray, then two yellows, three blues, four greens, and a rainbow of hues ranging from burgundy red to lilac, purple, and pink. Surprizingly there's no orange.
Mine came with 20 colors including 2 orange which are somewhat similar to each other.
That's odd, really. Maybe different people are getting different batches of colors? that sounds sloppy to me.

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I've ordered the stickers from Olivér and look forward to good contrasting colours. From my experience with the Radiolarian 3, colour is very important on these puzzles as the corner points are small and only have two colours. On my Radiolarian 3, I erred in using different shades of the same colour (e.g. green) on opposite faces. This resulted in every corner point having several fraternal twins, such as the red-orange family and the blue-green family. I'm not sure if it is possible, but I want to find a colour scheme that produces unique corner points so that, for example, there is only one red-orange piece.

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Okay, I started snickering my puzzle. I realised that yes, there are too oranges. I just didn't see it when I first opened it.

Am I the only person in the forum who likes to place similar hues on adjacent faces? It really helps in telling the colors apart when closer colors are next to each other, and I don't get upset by maneuvering pieces halfway around the puzzle only to find that they are the wrong shade. Think of the rainbow wheel mapped to a sphere. One hemisphere has lighter shades moving towards the pole, the other gets darker, and the equator looks like the color wheel.

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Am I the only person in the forum who likes to place similar hues on adjacent faces? It really helps in telling the colors apart when closer colors are next to each other, and I don't get upset by maneuvering pieces halfway around the puzzle only to find that they are the wrong shade.
On Eitan's Star there are no edges to consider, so the only issue that you may have is distinguishing between the two corner points that belong to an edge. Getting one of those wrong is not much of a problem as the correct slot for the piece would be right beside it. I'm warming up to this idea and I'm sure it will look very colourful!

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Pete the Geek wrote:
stardust4ever wrote:
Am I the only person in the forum who likes to place similar hues on adjacent faces? It really helps in telling the colors apart when closer colors are next to each other, and I don't get upset by maneuvering pieces halfway around the puzzle only to find that they are the wrong shade.
On Eitan's Star there are no edges to consider, so the only issue that you may have is distinguishing between the two corner points that belong to an edge. Getting one of those wrong is not much of a problem as the correct slot for the piece would be right beside it. I'm warming up to this idea and I'm sure it will look very colourful!

I just finished stickering it. I thought you might like to have a look:
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IMO, it's kind of tricky to do a flawless rainbow when you have a limited palette to work with. On mine the hot pink color kind of sticks out being adjacent to white and opposite the dark red, since I had nowhere else to put it. I did an exercise for my Principals of Design class (art 101) years ago (2002 to be exact - most useful art class I ever took because the stuff I learned in it can be applied to anything, not just art) where we had to make a 12-color wheel sourced from magazine scraps. It was hard to get good colors LOL! One day while mulling over how to arrange a megaminx with Cubesmith tiles (light and dark variants of nearly each cube color), I got the idea to do a rainbow, and it turned out gorgeous! I've been using a similar scheme on dodecahedral puzzles ever since...

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I'm too scared atm to really play around and with it and mess this puzzle up. I'll prolly never be able to solve it if I do. :P

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So, this puzzle has been listed on Lightake for a bit less. Does anyone know why there would be a price discrepancy? If I buy from Lightake, will Eitan not get a cut? (Does he get a cut to begin with?)


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It's plain and simple really: the higher price is more profit for the selling store you buy from :)


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Some companies hope to sell more at a lower profit, some like to sell fewer, but higher profit per item. Basically they sell it at what they think will make them the most money overall.

Don't forget though, that HKnowstore offers 'free' shipping (it's not actually free of course, it's just factored into the cost of each puzzle) whereas lightake adds the shipping to the cost of what you buy when you place the order.

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Actually no.. lightake also offers free shipping IIRC. :)


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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I just finished stickering it. I thought you might like to have a look:
I really appreciate your photos, it is a beautiful sticker design for a beautiful puzzle! Did you purposely do "warm" and "cool" hemispheres or is that a consequence of doing the rainbow pattern?

Finally, since you have knowledge of colour and design and the context, where in the rainbow or colour wheel would I put the metallic "colours" such as gold, silver and bronze? Is "gold" a warm colour?

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Pete the Geek wrote:
stardust4ever wrote:
Finally, since you have knowledge of colour and design and the context, where in the rainbow or colour wheel would I put the metallic "colours" such as gold, silver and bronze? Is "gold" a warm colour?

I also tend to sticker puzzles in a rainbow-like pattern. When I do it I imagine a least squares fit when the goal is to minimize the difference between adjacent colors as much as possible, subjectively taking into account hue, saturation, and brightness. Gold and silver really throw this off though because they have strong reflection and specularity that makes them different from all of the other stickers. Grey, white, and black have a similar problem that make stickering "correctly" a hard task for the OCD sufferers among us.

There isn't a "right" way to sticker in a rainbow though since a rainbow is linear and even if you user a color space instead, neither linear or a space maps to a genus 0 surface very nicely.

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I noticed that like the FTO, the tips can be spun in place. I will make an effort to avoid this "cheat".


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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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I noticed that like the FTO, the tips can be spun in place. I will make an effort to avoid this "cheat".
Only the caps on the corners spin. The actual corner piece that makes contact with the other pieces can't be spun in place (or at least it takes a lot of effort to do so).

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Just to clarify, I'm not getting a cut of the sales of this puzzle. However, I am getting 10 free copies, my name on the box, my logo on the puzzle, and the opportunity to name the puzzle. I'm happy.

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Pete the Geek wrote:
stardust4ever wrote:
I just finished stickering it. I thought you might like to have a look:
I really appreciate your photos, it is a beautiful sticker design for a beautiful puzzle! Did you purposely do "warm" and "cool" hemispheres or is that a consequence of doing the rainbow pattern?

Finally, since you have knowledge of colour and design and the context, where in the rainbow or colour wheel would I put the metallic "colours" such as gold, silver and bronze? Is "gold" a warm colour?

In order to do a "Rainbow" pattern, it is necessary for all colors to be highly saturated and to have both light and dark varieties in many hues. At most two colors can be neutral, typically white, black, or gray. Since I ordered a black puzzle, I got white and gray for the poles, so i used gray on the dark pole obviously. Technically, if the sphere were a perfect color wheel, neutral gray would be in the core of the sphere, not on the outside. Likewise, low saturation colors such as brown or olive would be subsurface, ie not outwardly visible. If I use the Earth as an example, for instance, the north pole could be white and the south pole would be black. As you approach the equator, colors become saturated. The equator would be the color wheel, with warmer colors in the eastern hemisphere and cooler colors in the western hemisphere, or visa-versa. Zero degrees longitude (Greenwhich, England) would be green, and the prime meridian, which passes across the pacific ocean, would be purple/violet. So yes, depending on the angle, warn or cool colors, light or dark will be visible. Complementary colors will be on opposite sides always. Obviously without a wide assortment of saturated colors, one cannot hope for a perfect rainbow effect. For instance, on my puzzle, the hot pink color was out of place (opposite dark red) because there was nowhere else to place it. Cest-la-vie...

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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My puzzle is here too. It's really awesome.
Although I am concerned with the turning ... ability. I have to say mine turns a little less well then the mf8 Starminx II. I can barely get 4 turns out of it without major blocking everywhere. I can't solve it that way. I screwed up once already. But I wasn't so far anyway.
Still it's more than one new puzzle to me. It's really a precious.

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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[...]Although I am concerned with the turning ... ability. I have to say mine turns a little less well then the mf8 Starminx II. I can barely get 4 turns out of it without major blocking everywhere. I can't solve it that way.
Very strange. Mine turns great. No major issues at all. I'd suggest taking it apart or re-tensioning it. If you pop off the corner caps you have access to some screws although I'm not sure what those screws are for. I'd expect the screws that hold pieces into the core to be under the triangle center pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Can you clarify what you mean by the "turning...ability" and "I can barely get 4 turns out of it without major blocking everywhere"? Are you disappointed with the mechanical turning of the puzzle? Or are you disappointed that there is only so far you can jumble the puzzle without it becoming completely blocked?

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 Post subject: Re: MF8 & Eitan's Star - Update
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Hey Etian,
no I actually meant the turning quality. Although sometimes when I start an Algorithm I need 15 seconds to get the first face I was looking at to turn. Major blocking means that The pieces lock up. Nothing moves. Not even in the other direction first to align everything. Not even another nearby face. It's just plain fighting at times.
However I have really always favored stiffness over looseness in puzzles. It's just a little more care that's needed.
So don't worry. Also the comparison with the Starminx II was a little unfair. I had a good Starminx. :)
Some lucky case got squared now. :roll: My Eitan's Star is a marvellous puzzle it's just really really stiff.
I already considered retensioning it. I will do that later.

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