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 Post subject: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:37 am 
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One set of the DIY 3X3X3 Bandaged cubes including:
one 3X3X3 black body
1X1 tiles: 54pcs (6 color,9pcs/color)
1X2 tiles: 24 pcs (6 color)
1X3 tiles: 12 pcs (6 color)
2X2 tiles: 6 pcs (6 color)
2X3 tiles: 6 pcs (6 color)
with this set , you can diy Thousands of kinds of 3X3X3 Bandaged cubes.Image
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cubetwister wrote:
with this set , you can diy Thousands of kinds of 3X3X3 Bandaged cubes.
3563 to be more precise.


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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Mine is in the post. This is such a great idea that I hope they do the same for their 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 series.


Ah well back to my Mixup 3x3x3 plus that turned up today. More money for the swear box!

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Awesome!
There was something like this before, but it was internal bandaging, no?

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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There was something like this before, but it was internal bandaging, no?


Yes - the MuFang Fusion - but I like to see my enemy!

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Wow, great ! I want one !!! :D

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I have already ordered this and hope it'll be here soon. I echo the above statement to please do the same for 4x4x4 and 5x5x5.

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I think I missed this.. can someone give the link to where one can buy one of these? Thanks :)


Imagine that: [url]http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.3×3×3_CubeTwist_Bandaged_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit___Black-56980[/url]


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...and here is a 5% discount coupon!LIGHTAKE82313 which I saw over at speedsolving.com

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Used it! :D Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Just placed a new order at HKnowstore including one of these - it looks very interesting i haven't tried any kind of bandaged cube before - i'm looking forward to the challenge :)

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
cubetwister wrote:
with this set , you can diy Thousands of kinds of 3X3X3 Bandaged cubes.
3563 to be more precise.

Andreas

How did you work this number out?

Also, is there some logical naming scheme for all 3563 of these?

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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My bandaged diy kit arrived today. I did a little unboxing video.

I'm so impressed with cubetwist. This looked to be a great idea and I'm just blown away by the sheer hours of pleasure awaiting. I've made a fuse cube and solved it and everything turns really nicely.

My only (extremely slight) issue is that if you push the pieces on too hard it's very difficult to get them off. If anyone has any bright ideas for prising them off without damaging them, let us know.

Also in the video I pose a question about some of the holes in some of the pieces and why they're slightly different. I have no idea. If you watch it and know, please tell me. :lol:

Overall, an absolutely fantastic idea and puzzle and I repeat my plea to cubetwist to do the same for the 444 and 555.

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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I would use one of those plastic spudger tools you can buy, used to take ipods/iphones apart.

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Just seen the video - "staggering"!
Mine is stuck in limbo somewhere, but can't wait.

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Mine is also somewhere out there flying around. Can't wait to get it here. I will start off with one or two bandage blocks though *giggle*

Now we need a 4x4 too! :D


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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Kattenvriendin wrote:
Mine is also somewhere out there flying around. Can't wait to get it here. I will start off with one or two bandage blocks though *giggle*

Now we need a 4x4 too! :D

Yes, my plan is to start by solving the ones that have already been mass produced. there are about 5 or 6 of them, right? And then hopefully start getting an idea of what kinds of variations would make fun puzzles. I'm really really interested in knowing about that number (3563) of puzzles which can be made, why it's that number. And I think we actually might need some kind of naming scheme...at least once the first 500 have been made :lol:

I think this has made me a lofelong Cubetwist fan. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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I'd like a bandageable 6x6 as it could be bandaged into a bandaged 6x6/(bandaged)5x5/(bandaged)4x4/(bandaged)3x3/(bandaged)2x2... :P

The bandaging tile collection for it would be rather impractically big :mrgreen:

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*runs to attic* I still have those old boxes that were used to store legos in! We can use those! :D :lol:


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Has anyone designs of the 3563 variations? :lol:
Can't wait until this puzzle arrives.

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I wonder if those variations have taken into account the number that one can put the tiles on but makes inpossible cubes.


Well.. impossible.. shouldn't one effectively call that a 1x1x1??


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Has anyone designs of the 3563 variations? :lol:
No reason to laugh. I have them. :P
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How did you work this number out?
I did it like you can do it
1. Download this program I posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24406
2. Run "Move everything to left list" in the Edit-menu.
3. Run "Filter for surface-bandagings only" in the Edit-menu.
4. Run "Trivial paths" in the Edit-menu.
5. Run "Filter permutation-free variants" in the Edit-menu.

All variants you now can see in the left list are the ones which are
1. non-trivial
2. implementable without the need of face-core-bonds.
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Also, is there some logical naming scheme for all 3563 of these?
The program demonstrates one although it might be extremely technical. I haven't found an easier one which is equally precise.

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No reason to laugh. I have them. :P

:shock: Wow fantastic ! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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I wonder if those variations have taken into account the number that one can put the tiles on but makes inpossible cubes.

Well I certainly managed to make an impossible cube on my 1st attempt in the video! definitely not one of my greater moments :lol:

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I did it like you can do it
1. Download this program I posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24406
2. Run "Move everything to left list" in the Edit-menu.
3. Run "Filter for surface-bandagings only" in the Edit-menu.
4. Run "Trivial paths" in the Edit-menu.
5. Run "Filter permutation-free variants" in the Edit-menu.

All variants you now can see in the left list are the ones which are
1. non-trivial
2. implementable without the need of face-core-bonds.

Brilliant. Thanks Andreas, I'll have a look at this.

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 Post subject: Re: 3X3X3 DIY Bandaged Cubes
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Has anyone else received their bandaged kits? And is anyone else having a lot of fun with them? (Or maybe getting frustrated...)

This kit is the best thing since sliced bread...

What I'm getting curious about is from Andreas' 3,000ish variations, how to tell which ones would make a "good, challenging but not ridiculously difficult" bandaged cube variant. If you have ideas on this, please post!

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Mine came yesterday, with a whole load of other puzzles i ordered at the same time, so i haven't played with it much yet - I've tried one 'simple' bandaging on it so far - a 3x1 piece on 2 opposite faces in the centre layer, but oriented at 90 degrees to each other - can't solve it for the life of me :D

I will say the cube itself is excellent quality, it turns really great. I need to get a tiny screwdriver or something for levering the pieces off though - currently i use a knife, that can't be a good idea in the long term :D great puzzle though, i expect to have many many hours of fun with it

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I need to get a tiny screwdriver or something for levering the pieces off though - currently i use a knife, that can't be a good idea in the long term
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I would use one of those plastic spudger tools you can buy, used to take ipods/iphones apart.

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ebay link

99cts there, free shipping :) Just got me two.


Mine arrived today as well. Took it apart and lubed and tensioned it all the way, nice cube, feels good. Haven't played too much with mine either as mine ALSO arrived with a bunch of other things (shengshou mirror, but also a wooden cat house to assemble, one can consider that a puzzle lol), but I intend to stick the pieces on this evening and see what I can achieve *grin*


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Gus wrote:
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I need to get a tiny screwdriver or something for levering the pieces off though - currently i use a knife, that can't be a good idea in the long term
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I would use one of those plastic spudger tools you can buy, used to take ipods/iphones apart.


ahh yes - i do remember reading that now, when you first posted it, now that you mention it... but i've slept since then :D

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I use a Cubesmith blade (usually used for removing stickers).
I have ordered a spudger tool as well. Thanks Kattenvriendin!

I have configured, scrambled and solved a few so far.

The Hidetoshi bandaged 3x3x3
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Here you can find it in the museum.
All invisible cubies carry single tiles only.
This was quite a challenge for me.
Because it is mass-produced as well, I assumed that one can find hints.
I didn't see anything.

Maybe, we should start something in the solving forum?

Any proposals what you view as a nice challenge?

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That sounds like a good idea to me.. but.. something simpler to start with maybe? And then all those who have this cube try and solve it? :) I love the idea!

And you're welcome. There were more with the thing for 99ct, but this was the seller with the highest feedback %, so :)



*goes put tiles on in that pattern anyway to try*

*grin*


Edit: forget that simple, this is a good starter now that I actually LOOKED at it hahaha
Another edit.. this thing is FUN! I ALMOST have a white face but turn to what it needs to turn? Nooooo

Anyone remember ministeck? Putting the tiles on is half the fun with this cube.


Thank you to those who developed this. It is GREAT!!


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Damn you guys! You've FORCED me to buy one too! And I thought I'd spent enough on puzzles recently! But then this is several 100 more or even several 1000 all for one low low price! :lol:

Is there any accepted notation for describing one of these bandaged puzzles?
Are we going to have a thread or site where we post the varying types, their difficulty and even solutions/hints for each? (remember I'm not very bright and a beginner at this - at least for bandaged cubes!)

I only have 1 bandaged 3x3 in my collection and haven't dared scramble it yet! I've been too frightened of it - now I potentially have 1000s! What have I let myself in for? :shock:

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i like the idea of a thread / site with us all trying the same variation :D

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I only have 1 bandaged 3x3 in my collection and haven't dared scramble it yet! I've been too frightened of it


At least with this one you can just take the tiles off if you can't solve it, so you don't have to worry about it sitting on the shelf unsolved :)

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At least with this one you can just take the tiles off if you can't solve it, so you don't have to worry about it sitting on the shelf unsolved :)

And that is the BIGGEST part of the fun.

YAYYYY one more buyer *chuckles*


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Are we going to have a thread or site where we post the varying types, their difficulty and even solutions/hints for each? (remember I'm not very bright and a beginner at this - at least for bandaged cubes!)

*sticks arm up for support and looks sweetly at the site manager* Pretty please?

I do think I need to start simpler as well.. I know I can solve the crazy neptune and uranus, but this is a whole new ballgame *giggle*


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The postman just passed, nothing ! :(
Also waiting for a mushroom puzzle and an egg puzzle, I could mix those two to make an omelette puzzle.

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I will say the cube itself is excellent quality, it turns really great.

I agree with this apart from one teeny minor detail. The screw on my yellow face doesn't seem to be long enough so every so often it comes out. I screw it back in again. I hesitate to write this as it's still amazing value even without one screw.

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99cts there, free shipping :) Just got me two.

Thanks for the link. I got one.

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This was quite a challenge for me.
Because it is mass-produced as well, I assumed that one can find hints.
I didn't see anything.

Maybe, we should start something in the solving forum?

Me too. I got this cube about a year ago. I tried to solve it and didn't make it very far. I had some PMs with a very patient Burgo; he showed me the method he's now put on the solving thread. I tried it but it just didn't click. So after a while I sold it.

Then the kit came out and I made it again and realised it was the same one. I also had a look for bandaged cube videos and tutorials but, like Konrad, found very few.

Something must have changed with me this time because I did what I once read Tony Fisher advise: pretend your life depends on solving it. I refused to not be able to solve it. And things started falling into place. (Amazing what a bit of pressure does.) My added complication was that I refuse to use anything other than ultimate solution algs, being UR'U'LURU'L and FR'F'R (and similar). After a number of hours working on it, I'm now calling it one of my favourite cubes. And I made some videos showing the method, but more on that in the solving thread.

I'm still quite keen to find people's ideas of what will make a good challenge. For instance, I made this cube
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which differs from the hidetoshi only in the placement of the red-blue bandaged block. I wanted to see whether it would significantly change the solving. It didn't. In fact, it made it easier to solve the corners. But I'm not sure why. I'm not visual enough to "see" why this should be the case.

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What?! :shock: There's no such thing as "spent enough on puzzles".

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Is there any accepted notation for describing one of these bandaged puzzles?

I asked that above. There doesn't seem to be. the 6 that have already been mass-produced have names which mostly make sense, but as an example, how would the one I showed above differ? Cubetwist call the Hidetoshi cube the "Bandaged 3".

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Ah, the worst time, when you're waiting for a parcel, and you're convinced the post office is in a conspiracy to never deliver anything to you again...

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Ah, the worst time, when you're waiting for a parcel, and you're convinced the post office is in a conspiracy to never deliver anything to you again...


Hah - try what i just went through! my latest order had tracking number - checking that told me it should arrive on monday. I was at home, aroudn midday a message along the lines of 'unable to locate addressee - delivered' appeared on it.

huh?

later something else was added about it being held at my local post office. nobody knocked at my door, no failed delivery card left or anything! i was panicking thinkingthat somebody else had my puzzles :evil:

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Hah - try what i just went through! my latest order had tracking number - checking that told me it should arrive on monday. I was at home, aroudn midday a message along the lines of 'unable to locate addressee - delivered' appeared on it.

huh?

later something else was added about it being held at my local post office. nobody knocked at my door, no failed delivery card left or anything! i was panicking thinkingthat somebody else had my puzzles :evil:

I can beat that...

I ordered a 3x3x5 from Smaz one time. I ordered it about 2 weeks before we were due to move house. (Yes, laugh now...) I got it sent to the old address because I had setup mail redirection for a year. It didn't come. It still didn't come. Then I phoned the post, and they said "You signed for it a few weeks back". :shock: then I found out they don't do mail redirection for packages anyway, only letters. Turns out the new owner's parents signed for it (stupid post man/woman was supposed to check for ID), then put it in their car and forgot about it. About 7 weeks later someone finally worked out it didn't belong to them and I eventually got it back through the real estate agent. It was unopened, undamaged and I treasured it. :lol:

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Oh man.. wow.. I would absolutely hate to see that happen.

I am already upset when they deliver at the neighbors and I find they aren't home by the time I get back from work and find the slip in the door. :lol:


There is one neighbor they sometimes deliver at.. and there is this really big obvious note on the BELL even to NOT deliver mail there. I don't WANT my mail there. I actually wrote a complaint to the post when they did it again, and post folk came back with "You have to let the seller know that it cannot be delivered there".

Right.. from China. With the language barrier as bad as it is, the difference between DO and DO NOT can go to mush real fast, but suppose we jump that hurdle successfully, then the next one. The folk delivering here barely know English let alone Dutch sometimes!

I am not home, they see the number, they don't see the "do not", they just give it to THOSE neighbors because that number is on there.

*frustrated groan* :roll:


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Arrived today ! wow super !!! :D

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Puzzlemad wrote:
Is there any accepted notation for describing one of these bandaged puzzles?
Not accepted but well suited:
http://www.twistypuzzles.com/forum/view ... =1&t=24406

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I finally received mine. I like it a lot but am a bit disappointed that it only includes 2 1x3 tiles for each color instead of 3. Does anyone know what the complete tile set for the Rubik/MegaHouse one will be like?


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Volitar Prime wrote:
I like it a lot but am a bit disappointed that it only includes 2 1x3 tiles for each color instead of 3.
I was initially a little disappointed by the same thing, but when you think about it, it would only make relatively trivial cases possible.

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Doing 3 1x3 bandages on 1 layer and leaving the rest of the cube unbandaged could be fun.


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Volitar Prime wrote:
Doing 3 1x3 bandages on 1 layer and leaving the rest of the cube unbandaged could be fun.


You could use a an other colour for one of the 1x3 bandages.

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What a great idea. I would very much like to see this on more puzzles.

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I can only second other comments here. This would have been great on 4x4x4. My bandaged 4x4x4 Ai cube arrived last week with 2 fallen off tiles and a rather horrible color scheme ...

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