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 Post subject: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:36 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
Ive heard that you have to half truncate the cube then extend the non truncated pieces, can someone explain indepth what i have to do please?

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:44 pm

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This is quite an easy puzzle really once you have gotten your head around it!
It is JUST a 3x3 cube which has been morphed into a pyramid. The dual colour triangular areas are the centres (being dual colour they have an orientation so are effectively a supercube). The parallelograms are the edge pieces and the triangles (single or triples) are the corners. It is possible to have a single corner orientated wrong unlike a normal cube because the single colour triangle corners can be rotated without changing anything.

Once you have your head around this it is pretty easy. I can do mine in about 3-4 minutes now.

Hope this helps!

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:00 pm

Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm
Location: Chichester, England
I think he was talking about building it as opposed to solving it.

KozehCubes, as I don't hand build puzzles, I can't help you much. But both the pillowed and the flat sided version have been mass produced.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:07 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
This is quite an easy puzzle really once you have gotten your head around it!
It is JUST a 3x3 cube which has been morphed into a pyramid. The dual colour triangular areas are the centres (being dual colour they have an orientation so are effectively a supercube). The parallelograms are the edge pieces and the triangles (single or triples) are the corners. It is possible to have a single corner orientated wrong unlike a normal cube because the single colour triangle corners can be rotated without changing anything.

Once you have your head around this it is pretty easy. I can do mine in about 3-4 minutes now.

Hope this helps!

I can solve it I wanna build it

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:08 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
Luke wrote:
I think he was talking about building it as opposed to solving it.

KozehCubes, as I don't hand build puzzles, I can't help you much. But both the pillowed and the flat sided version have been mass produced.

I know luke but I really want to get into puzzle modding and this is supposedly easy, any tips you know you can give me though please?

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:10 pm

Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:57 am
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Luke wrote:
I think he was talking about building it as opposed to solving it.

KozehCubes, as I don't hand build puzzles, I can't help you much. But both the pillowed and the flat sided version have been mass produced.

Doh!
Didn't read the name of the forum! I use the view active topics all the time and just saw the title! Sorry!

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:24 pm

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:25 pm
Location: Finland
While I have never modded a cube either, at least I can provide this picture... your instructions seem valid
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tetrahedroncube.png [ 99.48 KiB | Viewed 2296 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:34 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
Coaster1235 wrote:
While I have never modded a cube either, at least I can provide this picture... your instructions seem valid
Attachment:
tetrahedroncube.png

somehow that picture still confuses me....

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:40 pm

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:25 pm
Location: Finland
How exactly? It has the cube and the tetrahedron overlapped to show what to truncate and what to extend. Maybe I'll leave this to those who have actually done it...

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:48 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
Coaster1235 wrote:
How exactly? It has the cube and the tetrahedron overlapped to show what to truncate and what to extend. Maybe I'll leave this to those who have actually done it...

Actually yeah i understand now thanks so much, how do you recomend extending the pieces?

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:52 pm

Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am
Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
This website (registration required to view content) has an extremely good tutorial on how to build the Mastermorphix. The website itself is in Korean, but the guide has a lot of pictures, showing you exactly the most efficient way to build this puzzle. Coaster's picture shows how the cube sits inside the tetrahedron but it does not show the most efficient relative scale - the guide I linked to show exactly how you can "easily" use existing pieces to build up the others.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:00 pm

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:25 pm
Location: Finland
When I tried to view the page Tom linked, Chrome warned me of possible malware threat in that page. Anyone else have the same?

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:06 pm

Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am
Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
I get it too, but that message can appear for a variety of reasons. Even just linking to an image hosted on a suspicious site will trigger it.
I'm not sure, but the site I've linked to has been around for a long time and no virus scanner alarm bells went ringing when I clicked "proceed anyway".

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:22 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
This looks good but also fairly hard to follow becuase the grammar is jumbled when chrome translates it but thank you tomz i will give this a try

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:27 pm

Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:03 pm
Location: Mississippi
Here's a gif I made a long time ago of the 2x2 equivalent (well not exactly equivalent I guess...) ... Don't know if this helps or not...

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6025 ... 2x2wv4.gif

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:34 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
what i need is a video of extending the other pieces, im sorry but I mostly learn visually its hard for me to follow text...

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:42 am

Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:03 am
Location: Koblenz, Germany
KozehCubes wrote:
what i need is a video of extending the other pieces, im sorry but I mostly learn visually its hard for me to follow text...
You will have to go through a learning curve like everyone else. Although there are some variants for which tutorial videos exists in most cases you will have to use images, text, or nothing (when you want to create something new) as guide.

Here comes the more productive comment:
http://www.twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/pu ... i?pkey=862
Therefore I advise you to build exactly that. Compare it with the image Coaster1235 posted and (hopefully) you will see what pieces you have to extend.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:42 pm
Location: A CoruĂ±a - Spain
Maybe you see something here:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11143

In the messages below have more images

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:44 pm

Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:56 am
Hi KozehCubes,

1. Marking out a half truncated cube.
2. Half truncated, sitting on a cut face.
3. The extensions needed, for all 6 of the uncut faces.
4. The skeletal frame, before the outer plastic sheet is added.
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 Attachments: 2.jpg [ 23.5 KiB | Viewed 1863 times ] 3.jpg [ 25.9 KiB | Viewed 1863 times ] 4.jpg [ 44.3 KiB | Viewed 1863 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: Help with Matermorphix please?Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:06 pm

Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 am
Location: Hertfordshire, UK
SunnWinder wrote:
Hi KozehCubes,

1. Marking out a half truncated cube.
2. Half truncated, sitting on a cut face.
3. The extensions needed, for all 6 of the uncut faces.
4. The skeletal frame, before the outer plastic sheet is added.
Attachment:
1.jpg

OMG thank you for the clear diagrams, i can set to work on this now thank you

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Uh Oh I solved it again.....
PB:
3x3:27.34
4x4: 2:21
Rubiks Clock: 23sec
Floppy Cube: 4.5sec
2x2: 8.64sec (single)
2x2: 11.78(Average of 5)
Magic-0.91 (Single)

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