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 Post subject: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:34 pm 
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Hi! I want to design a Gear Corner Turning Octadehron and have designed the gear layer in 2 different configurations:
1. Corner and edge - 8 teeth, big round - 20 teeth. This version does not have a non-geared edge part, but it has a center face element.
2. Corner - 12 teeth, edge - 6 teeth, big round - 20 teeth. This one is very similar to Gear Pyraminx, even the face pattern is much alike.

What do you think - which version is better to make (more interesing to solve or looks nicer or ...)?

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:42 pm 
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Based on the poor behavior of the group of center pieces on the Gear Pyraminx, I'd go for the v2 for the sake of simplicity and stability.

I don't have an opinion from a solving point of view because I still don't have a good grasp of what choices influence the solving experiance on a geared puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:38 pm 
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I would say v1, because I notice that v2 still has even smaller peices, which could cause lockups.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:42 pm 
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I'd say both! I like them equally and I am talking about esthetics.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:11 pm 
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I'd say v1 because I want to see something new. v2 reminds me of the gear pyramid, which is a great puzzle by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:13 pm 
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I like V1 because .. I do!

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Both! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:24 pm 
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The first picture is actually the V2 and the second is the V3 according to the file names. So it looks like everyone so far has voted for the V2/first one, which I agree with.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:52 am 
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bmenrigh wrote:
Based on the poor behavior of the group of center pieces on the Gear Pyraminx...
What behaviour do you mean? You must be talking about the mass produced puzzle that turned to be kind of a poor excuse for the real Gear Pyraminx.
Do you know why it doesn't work like it should? Meffert's designers actually made too big changes in my design. Below are the comparison pictures with one version laid over another.
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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:22 am 
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Both look like great designs to me, and I'd be very happy to own either of them!

However if I had to choose only one then I'd go for the first one. Sometimes I feel that less is more.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
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I'd have to go with the V3, because the inside pieces do not look nearly as small as the ones on the V2.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Corner Turning Octahedron - what to choose?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:47 pm 
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The first one is just a differently shaped gear cube so I vote for the second one - that is, if only one can be made. ;)


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