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 Post subject: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron #1 (alias milloctahedron v2)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Hello to all, this is my latest puzzle a variant of the cuboctahedron shape, I applied for the first time this form to a S-Square in November 2009 I hope you enjoy it.

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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:13 pm 
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Brilliant!


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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:44 pm 
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I like it :D!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:51 am 
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At first I though you made a duplicate of this one:
http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pkey=2798
but then I recognized that you used the same truncation eight times.
You did not know it but you created a sample of a symmetry subgroup which has never been made before and therefore I still do not have in my collection.
Very innovative!

Note for myself: Its signature is 2420200044204


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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:20 am 
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
At first I though you made a duplicate of this one:
http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pkey=2798
but then I recognized that you used the same truncation eight times.
You did not know it but you created a sample of a symmetry subgroup which has never been made before and therefore I still do not have in my collection.
Very innovative!
Note for myself: Its signature is 2420200044204


Hello all thank you both for replies;

Hello Mr. Nortmann, thanks for enlightened last night I had to be tired, In fact, I have made ​​a significant error in the description, for the simple fact that the shape used is not the "same" but rather a variant of the SS shifted cuboctahedron, otherwise the result would be that shown by you in the link, fortunately it was not, so I think we should add to # 1 to the SC logo;

Note for myself: Its signature is 2420200044204, I have seen so many signatures in your work but I neverunderstood where they arise;

shortly be publishing the video, what I like of puzzle is the shape because the top and bottom, "seem" (as figuratively) turn in the opposite direction.
Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:24 am 
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RFLo9Puzzles wrote:
I have seen so many signatures in your work but I never understood where they arise
Anywhere here on the forum there is program made by me which help one to show variants of several bandaged puzzles.
If you entere the signature there it will show you this image:
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Now replace every bandaging with a specific truncation and the result is your transformation.

What confuses many members is the point that identical signatures can lead to different transformations if different truncation techniques (regular corners / regular edges / half-regular corners / irregular edges / ...) are used.


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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Very pretty Rafael,

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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Nice puzzle. Rather similar to the Milloctahedron. It looks like a really nice build.

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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:19 am 
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
What confuses many members is the point that identical signatures can lead to different transformations if different truncation techniques (regular corners / regular edges / half-regular corners / irregular edges / ...) are used.


Hello Mr. Nortmann
thank you for update, this was the concept i didn't undersand.
Best regards

Hello Mr. Dave
thank you for the compliment.
Best regards

Hello Mr. Luke
seems from the photos but it is not clear whether one or the other showed by Mr. Nortmann,
thank you for the compliment.
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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:28 am 
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RFLo9Puzzles wrote:
Hello Mr. Luke
seems from the photos but it is not clear whether one or the other showed by Mr. Nortmann,
thank you for the compliment.
The one I pointed to has not the special symmetry group. The Milloctahedron has indeed the same symmetry group as your 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron. At least I rediscovered it. Not bad.


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 Post subject: Re: 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron #1 (alias milloctahedron v2)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:47 am 
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[/quote] The one I pointed to has not the special symmetry group. The has indeed the same symmetry group as your 3x3x3 Shifted Cuboctahedron. At least I rediscovered it. Not bad.[/quote]

so eventually we found the first creator?
I've found this video from redroost80 milloctahedron v2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1giRIdF5Yw
if i want to do something new I think is a good solution the fishoctahedron v-2;
with regard to the puzzle, I will avoid to send you the photos for the museum because I was not the first.
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