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 Post subject: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:46 am 
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I'm just really curious as to why it hasn't. It is a highly demanded item from collectors and general cubers, so the producer would definitely gain a profit on it. Timur has made a working shapeways version so we all know the mechanism is possible.
I want to know what you guys think about this.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:59 am 
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If the puzzle is INCREDIBLY popular like the curvy copter, they will build moulds and make them, but I believe there has not been enough "Buzz" for it to come out in the next 3-6 months.
But, on the other hand, since Mefferts has mass produced pyraminx and prof. pyraminx, I will not be surprised if it arrives late 2012 or early 2013
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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:00 am 
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As I know many demands not equal to many people will buy it.

I remember sometimes before I saw a Master pyraminx in Meffert's webshop front page. But I don't know if Meffert has a plan to do it or not. Anyway I hope Meffert do it, as it is a pyraminx.


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I'm pretty certain that Meffert will be releasing one. All that is required is patience.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:25 am 
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I just hope that it is not pillowed.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Mefferts is working on it. It is pillowed.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Then I hope someone else makes a non-pillowed one as they will get my money instead of Mefferts (like what happened with the mastermorphix). This puzzle does not need to be pillowed.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Volitar Prime wrote:
Then I hope someone else makes a non-pillowed one as they will get my money instead of Mefferts (like what happened with the mastermorphix). This puzzle does not need to be pillowed.

I agree, it seems pointless, though if it looks decent I'll buy it.


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I bet it will be released soon. Pillowed or non-pillowed; it doesn't matter to me. I just want a puzzle that functions well. (It seems that most of the recent massproduced puzzles haven't functioned well. :? )

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Ducttapemaster48 wrote:
(It seems that most of the recent massproduced puzzles haven't functioned well. :? )

Yep. I hope they have learned their lesson from the Gear Pyraminx.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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This is what the master pyraminx is going to look like. I personally don't really like the look of it.
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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Benf207 wrote:
This is what the master pyraminx is going to look like. I personally don't really like the look of it.
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I dont like that look either. I mean I would want something like this:
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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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I like the look of that pillowed Master Pyraminx. Do you mind if I ask where you found that picture?

For those who don't want this pillowed version, I recommend ordering from Timur. It will cost more, but it's an incredibly well made puzzle. It's pretty small in size, but I like it better than the bigger versions, and it functions and turns great!


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Jay wrote:
I like the look of that pillowed Master Pyraminx. Do you mind if I ask where you found that picture?


Finally, someone else other than me likes the pillowed version. :lol: :wink: I bet that the picture was one from the USB drives that were given away with the pyraminxs and the treasure chests. I'm not really sure though.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Yeah, that image is off the USB that came with the Treasure Chest.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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That photo has also been on his webpage since Christmas of 2010.....

Nothing new there. As for the pillowing, Well, he likes it and has a pretty darned good reason to pillow everything he's been putting out of late-well, over the past 2 years I guess.

And before anyone asks about missing orders or reasons or anything else, let me just say Uwe is hibernating in Thailand right now. I sure wish I were, it's 12C out there today!

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Sigurd wrote:
Benf207 wrote:
I mean I would want something like this:
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I'm pretty sure I recognize the hand in that picture. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Sigurd wrote:
Benf207 wrote:
This is what the master pyraminx is going to look like. I personally don't really like the look of it.
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I dont like that look either. I mean I would want something like this:
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I agree, I like the classic look better then the pillowed. Though, the pillowed doesn't look too bad, and it matches with all the other higher order Pyraminx's.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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wwwmwww wrote:
Sigurd wrote:
Benf207 wrote:
I mean I would want something like this:
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I'm pretty sure I recognize the hand in that picture. 8-)

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Is that your hand? :P
ยจ*If so I would be very very envious of you for the piece of art you are holding... :twisted:

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Sigurd wrote:
Is that your hand? :P
Yes, you can see where that picture was first posted here:

http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=39153#p39153

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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I was among those people who first noted the existence of the master pyraminx. Somebody please educate me as to why it has to be pillowed. Heck, Shim's flat-sided master Pyraminx would have made a fantastic product rather than the pillowed craptastic mock up in the prototype photo. I hope to goodness the final product is not that ugly. The hybrid Skewb/Pyraminx mechanism would be wonderful for a flat-faced Master Pyraminx. I own a Shapeways model and do not regret buying it.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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The real Meffert's Master Pyraminx is going to be something between these two - pillowed, but not that much like a Releaux tetrahedron on Adam's picture. Actually it will exactly match the size and shape of Professor Pyraminx and Pillow Pyraminx.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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Thanks for the info, Timur! I'm looking forward to adding this to my collection! :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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I suspect that it may be a cost thing. A pillowed one is smaller and uses less plastic.


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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I originally thought the pillow design was created for a smoother turning puzzle, but if you watch the beginning of this video, Uwe says it's more for comfort, since it fits the shape of your hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2TAyVc_VHs


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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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stardust4ever wrote:
The hybrid Skewb/Pyraminx mechanism would be wonderful for a flat-faced Master Pyraminx.
You can find information on why we don't have a mini-skewb based Mastery Pyraminx here and the second paragraph of this post.

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 Post subject: Re: Why hasn't the Master Pyraminx been mass produced?
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The original intent of using the Releaux Tetrahedron as the base shape for the Master Pyraminx was to provide the largest space for an internal mechanism possible. The pillowed design also allows for stabilizing the edge pieces so they don't overhang.

The feel of the puzzle was an additional benefit of the shape. It feels nice in the hand because it is easy to hold and turn the major cuts of the puzzle. The disadvantage of the Releaux Master Pyraminx is that the trivial tips are very "flat", and that makes them difficult to turn. Overall I really like the Releaux shape, but for this corner turning puzzle, the pllowed version makes a better puzzle.

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