Today I got out a few ring / chain puzzles I received last Christmas. Some of the non twisty posts recently inspired me to get them out. I have solved them pretty quickly, which amazes me because last Christmas I toiled with them for hours getting nowhere (my puzzle perception has improved I think). At least I think I have solved the ring puzzle. It reminded me of the puzzle in this thread ^^ (and I need to ask also): is the central ring not removable? If it's removable then this puzzle is harder than I think, but I think it's there to block the path of the removable ring a bit.
Also, because I don't remember their starting positions I am a little unsure of what they ought to look like solved (all of them). I can guess pretty well, I'd just like to know for sure, exactly, especially for the ring one, the others are more obvious.
And how hard are they? because these are the first puzzles of this type I've ever solved.. but after the recent discussions and posts I have a few Hanayamas coming
. I must say, I am warming to those cast assembly puzzles, some of them are beautiful!