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 Post subject: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:34 pm

Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:11 pm
I have a collection of about 50 puzzles, and the only puzzle I have almost no idea of how to solve would be my latch cube. Who would have though such a small addition added such a challenge. Can someone give me a clear solution or direction in which to go? I'm lost and I can't stand having a mixed up cube on my shelf, I'm sure many of you understand .
Thanks,
Zackz115

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:02 pm

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zackz115 wrote:
I have a collection of about 50 puzzles, and the only puzzle I have almost no idea of how to solve would be my latch cube. Who would have though such a small addition added such a challenge. Can someone give me a clear solution or direction in which to go? I'm lost and I can't stand having a mixed up cube on my shelf, I'm sure many of you understand .
Thanks,
Zackz115

Um... isn't it possible to use 3x3x3 algorithms, where you turn it 3/4s of a clockwise turn instead of 1/4 counterclockwise?

Or am I missing something here?

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:21 pm

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Location: Houston/San Antonio, Texas
GoombaGeek wrote:
Um... isn't it possible to use 3x3x3 algorithms, where you turn it 3/4s of a clockwise turn instead of 1/4 counterclockwise?

Or am I missing something here?

You are indeed missing something The arrows stay with the edge piece and as the puzzle gets mixed the edge pieces move around. Whenever a face has two conflicting arrows on it, that face is unable to spin at all - making it VERY different from a Rubik's Cube. Nearly every algorithm is broken. Nearly...

zackz115 wrote:
Can someone give me a clear solution or direction in which to go?

I don't know how much you are looking for here, but for starters, make your first goal getting the puzzle in the correct "shape". By that I mean, try to get the arrows in all of the right spots (both CW and CCW arrows!), ignoring the colors underneath the arrows. Don't worry about center or corner placement at all. That's how I started.

Peace,
Matt Galla

P. S. If solving the arrows directly into the correct position is too hard, try solving them into a different position that you can then get to the correct position. For example, 4 CW arrows on a face and 4 CCW arrows on the opposite face, with the remaining 4 arrows in certain places in the middle layer is only a slice turn away from the correct position and is much eaiser to work with

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:22 pm

Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:33 pm
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Or, if you are really desperate to just get it solved and looking nice with your other puzzles, grab a credit card or something and simply force back the latch on each piece conflicting with the move you want to make

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:13 am

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Mindstormscreator wrote:
Or, if you are really desperate to just get it solved and looking nice with your other puzzles, grab a credit card or something and simply force back the latch on each piece conflicting with the move you want to make

NEVER!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:42 am

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:52 am
zackz115 wrote:
Mindstormscreator wrote:
Or, if you are really desperate to just get it solved and looking nice with your other puzzles, grab a credit card or something and simply force back the latch on each piece conflicting with the move you want to make

NEVER!!!!!!!

100% attitude. I like that.
That's what everything is about. Don't you give up.
I can't contribute to this topic in any other way. However I am waiting for my latch cube to arrive. I'll soon see how much of my 3x3x3 knowledge I can use but from what I read it is infact a difficult puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:52 pm

Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:37 am
Location: Waco, TX and South Bend, IN
My advice is basically just like that of Allagem's. First, try to solve all of the arrows by getting them in the proper location. I tend to go ahead and solve them color and location first, but it's entirely up to you.

Then, just experiment and try to find algorithms that will work. Though still a challenge, starting from here is much easier than trying to find algorithms for a randomly scrambled latch cube.

Good luck!

Chris

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:29 pm

Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:48 pm
Location: Italy
Here is a solution (not mine):

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52148673/How- ... Latch-Cube

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:30 pm

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Aargh, now you've made me want one!!!
There goes another 30 bucks
Cheers,
Burgo.

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:54 pm

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Burgo wrote:
Aargh, now you've made me want one!!!
There goes another 30 bucks
Cheers,
Burgo.

What about simulating it with stickers?

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:39 pm

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:59 pm
Location: Crestwood, IL
I find this cube to be quite a pain but is a good challenge nevertheless. The key is to get all of the edge pieces solved first. Black arrows first then the white ones. Then after that the corners are not so bad. I will also say that it is extremely helpful to have another latch cube next to you when solving this.

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 Post subject: Re: Solving Latch Cube?Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:53 am

Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:31 pm
I figured out how to solve mine before hitting the tutorials, but hey, I would be a hipocrite to not give you a link, as I learned to solve a rubiks cube online.

Happy cubing!

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