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 Post subject: Re: Help Moving Into Speedsolving
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:42 pm 
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Hello all,

I had a question regarding speedsolving methods, although I am not sure how fair of a question it is as I know people pick methods for various reasons. However I have reached the stage where I can solve the cube yet it still takes me 3-4 minutes or so to do so. I currently employ a bottom cross, bottom corners, middle layer edges, top cross, position top corners, orient corners (for those necessary) method. While the pattern works fine when starting with any scrambled cube, I seem to find myself always hunting for cubies as well as not seeing too many ways to combine moves.

I have been greatly impressed with the groups insights and skill, thus I was wondering what method(s) might be recommended to extend and/or incorporate what I have learned into a more efficient, thus faster, method? Would working with or simply learning the Fridrich, Petrus, or Knights method(s) work? Should I just keep using the one I have until I find ways to make it more efficient thus faster? Should I just start over with one of the above methods so that I can use/incorporate a faster system?

Thank you all for your kind help!

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Sam

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:25 pm 
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Howdy,

Re: the overall question: I think that you need to take into account how much time you want to take to get say sub 30 seconds. If you're OK in sticking with finding your own way then do that. If you want to get there quicker then go do someone else's method.

If you want to do entirely your own method then don't read further.

If you want to improve what you do, still mostly on your own then think in terms of freedom of movement.

Generally if you do cross, then 4 corners, then the middle edges, you might trying doing these elements in a different order. For example, it can be much faster if you did three corners then three middle level edges before doing that last corner. There are hundreds of little shortcuts like that so don't assume that this example is "the" way to do it.

My own method is built around freedom of movement. One way in my method is to do four corners, then middle edges, then the cross. I usually place two pieces at a time.

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Hello!

While I do not mind the method I have now I just do not, as of yet, see a way to significantly increase my speed. And, while I am not necessarily shooting to get sub-30 solves, I would like to get under 1 minute if possible. I guess I will just have to look around to see what is out there that I can incorporate into what I have already learned.

Thanks for the help! I appreciate it!

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Sam

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With a good cube and practice you can get under 1 minute no matter how stupid the method :D


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I not only agree with Stefan, but I push the time up to 45 seconds. LBL methods are especially popular, even a 4 look LL can get you pretty fast. I have a friend who I taught this method to averaging sub-35! Its all the limits of your fingers and your recognition time!

Usually, if you get really fast with a slower method, you will simply fly when transitioned over to a faster fridrich-like approach or something similar in number of moves and finger-ease.

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Hello all,

I am sorry for the delay in writing back yet things have been rather busy as of late...

I wanted to thank you all for the suggestions! I will have to just keep working on what I know and try to incorprate combination moves. Recently I have been trying to see how to place the middle edge cubies with the LL coners in the same move, yet have not figured it out yet. We shall see!

Thanks again!

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Sam Jacobson

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