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 Post subject: sub-15 with FridrichPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:46 pm

Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:11 pm
Location: KC, MO: USA
i was watching a video of jean pons solving the 3x3 in about 12.x seconds and from the looks of it he uses the fridrich method!

here i am thinking that the fridrich method's limit was about 15-16 seconds.

does anyone else (that is consistantly sub-15) use the fridrich method?

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:14 pm

Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 4:08 am
yes, most if not all of them do. Some use COLL too, which will solve corners if the edges are oriented already upon reaching the LL. I have gotten a best average of 16.02, with a personal best of 11.23 and I use a fridrich F2L, with a CLL ELL last layer. BTW, if you want advice from strictly a sub 15 cuber, you're gonna have to look real hard. Sub 25 cubers have a lot of knowledge too, don't discount them.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:45 am

Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:48 am
I'd like to see other methods explored to see their limits. Particularly roux, his speed appears to be amazing..

~Thom

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:36 am

Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 4:08 am
the roux method is insanely fast, Gilles himself is sub 15 with it. some other methods with potention in my mind are: the guimond method, the heise method, petrus (can be really fast, with good recognition), and last but not least, columns first, developed independently by myself and Masayki Akimoto.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:05 pm

Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:47 am
Do you have any more details around your columns first? I'm currently converting to Corners First and Columns First seems to be an interesting alternative.

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 Post subject: Re: sub-15 with FridrichPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:39 pm

Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:00 pm
TheJordanD wrote:
does anyone else (that is consistantly sub-15) use the fridrich method?

As far as I know, you're asking for the empty set:
http://www.speedcubing.com/records/recs_misc_av100.html

And yes, Jean does use the Fridrich method.

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