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 Post subject: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:59 am 
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Why Mefferts changes the names of the puzzles?

are the inventors agree with he?

caution cube ------ gear cube
trignis -------------- vulcano
fadi cube ---------- mosaic cube

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:03 am 
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Brilic ----> Pyraminx Crystal

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:09 am 
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Not to mention all the chinese puzzles Mefferts put a sticker on.

I've always wondered this as well...


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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:21 am 
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I think's it's just for marketing reasons.
You can see that the names chose by Meffert are easier to remember, although I prefer the original names.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:32 am 
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I believe it has a lot to do with marketing.

For example:
Anisotropic Cube -> Gear Cube Extreme

Suppose you are an uninformed buyer, and you walk into a store to browse for something to buy. Can you honestly say the casual buyer will pick up something with a name like "Anisotropic Cube?" That just sounds cold and uninviting, but "Gear Cube Extreme" probably reeks of awesomeness.

Also, manufacturers must not only to market research to find out what appeals more to the customer, but also check to make sure that the name does not remotely resemble any type of trademark. As an example, Brillic sounds a lot like the brand name "Brillo Pad" which is a heavy-duty scrub brush used for cleaning, I believe. It is VERY easy to get sued in today's global market (unless you are a KO company making counterfeit goods somewhere in mainland China :evil: ).

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:10 am 
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To be honest, I think some of the names are fine as they are. I think "Flowerminx," "Vulcano," and "Jing's Pyraminx" were totally unnecessary. Why is Mr. Spock better than "Trignis?"

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:18 am 
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I can answer some of these.
The gear cube and gear cube extreme are named after what they look like. Simple, easy to remember.
Flowerminx, well, it does look like a flower doesn't it? :lol:
Jing's Pyraminx-Jing loved it and wanted it made. This is the only puzzle she has shown an interest in producing and hence the name. (I can't think of a better tribute to someone he loves so dearly)
Vulcano-think about it, it looks like a volcano. My prototype with bad stickers won't do the volcano justice in the showing though. And NO, it's Not Mr. Spock-it's Roman mythology :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:51 am 
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Timur wrote:
Brilic ----> Pyraminx Crystal


Wasn't it Pyraminx Crystal originally but then Aleh called his The Brilic?

Most of us have our own views on the kind of names puzzles should have and Uwe is no different. I remember talking to him about the Fadi cube at DCD2009. He was saying he thought there were better names for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:15 am 
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katsmom wrote:
...Vulcano-think about it, it looks like a volcano. My prototype with bad stickers won't do the volcano justice in the showing though. And NO, it's Not Mr. Spock-it's Roman mythology :roll:

I have no real problem with changing the names. But why Vulcano instead of Volcano?
Vulcan is the Roman god, "The word volcano is derived from the name of Vulcano, a volcanic island in the Aeolian Islands of Italy whose name in turn originates from Vulcan." (Wikipedia) Does the puzzle look like this island? :D
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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:25 am 
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Tony Fisher wrote:
Wasn't it Pyraminx Crystal originally but then Aleh called his The Brilic?

Well I'm not sure, maybe you're right. But if it already had a name Pyraminx Crystal, why did Aleh call it another way?

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:47 pm 
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Timur wrote:
Tony Fisher wrote:
Wasn't it Pyraminx Crystal originally but then Aleh called his The Brilic?

Well I'm not sure, maybe you're right. But if it already had a name Pyraminx Crystal, why did Aleh call it another way?
Read this from his original Brilic post.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:55 pm 
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I think some of the names Meffert's has chosen are a little immature sounding. I wish that the Holey puzzles would be called Void puzzles, as Holey sounds a bit immature. Also, the China Puzzle names are a bit silly. Calling a Axis Cube an Axel Cube really isn't worth it.

At least they aren't as bad as what some KO companies call their cube. (A non-existant example would be 4 Layered King of the IQ Jungle puzzle.) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:00 pm 
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SEBUVER wrote:
I think some of the names Meffert's has chosen are a little immature sounding. I wish that the Holey puzzles would be called Void puzzles, as Holey sounds a bit immature. Also, the China Puzzle names are a bit silly. Calling a Axis Cube an Axel Cube really isn't worth it.

At least they aren't as bad as what some KO companies call their cube. (A non-existant example would be 4 Layered King of the IQ Jungle puzzle.) :lol:


Ya, the axel cube really bothered me. I'd assume it had something to do with rights. However, the "holey" puzzles are called that because of Lee Tutt, who made the original Holey Megaminx and named it that. It was his creation, so he had naming rights. (Also, it is all linked to the pun "Holey Megaminx, Batman!" :))

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 Post subject: Re: Changing names
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SEBUVER wrote:
At least they aren't as bad as what some KO companies call their cube. (A non-existant example would be 4 Layered King of the IQ Jungle puzzle.) :lol:

I believe the names of Chinese puzzles sound silly, because they are LITERALLY translated from their Chinese names (which don't sound much better... :lol: )
I'm OK with the Meffert name changes, because I don't really think names mean much anyway- they are just something we give puzzles, so that they can be identified easily. As long as the resulting puzzle is great, then I'm happy :D

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