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 Post subject: dogic
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2000 11:47 pm 
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Does any body know where I can get a dogic at?


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 Post subject: Dogic
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2000 4:08 am 
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: Does any body know where I can get a dogic at?

No prob. You can get it at Hendrik Haak's Puzzle Shop, at http://www.puzzle-shop.de. L8r.


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 Post subject: Dogic
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2000 1:41 am 
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Tim, obviously you haven't been to the Puzzle Shop for a while. He no longer lists the Dogic puzzle for sale.


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 Post subject: Dogic
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2000 3:01 am 
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A site called "Just puzzles" @ http://justpuzzles.freeyellow.com have Dogic lited for sale. I don't know how true this is, but it's worth a shot, right?
It sales for $35.


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 Post subject: No Dogic
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2000 3:01 am 
Just Puzzles has it listed, but has no stock. The guy who runs it is offline till next weekend, but I've asked him about it several times.


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 Post subject: Contact Information
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2000 7:07 pm 
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Well, it took some searching, but I did find the original instructions that came with my Dogic. That purchase was made two years ago so I would be surprised if the Dogic is readily available.
Anyway, some very helpful information is on this paper. "Dogic, Test Your Logic" is made by VECSĂ• Toy-Manufacturer Ltd of Hungary. 2081 Piliscsaba Levente u. 27. Telephone: 00-36-26-375-179 or Telephone/Fax: 00-36-26-367-225.

Good Luck

p.s. I have noticed that Mr. Haak had 2 versions of the Dogic. If the puzzles move in the same manner, I can't see how Dogic 2 would be any fun. Get the original if you can.


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 Post subject: Coool...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 7:12 pm 
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Well done, Jake. I've been after this for a while. I might drop them a line.


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 Post subject: Dogic 2
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2000 6:41 am 
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>I have noticed that Mr. Haak had 2 versions of the Dogic.
>If the puzzles move in the same manner, I can't see how Dogic 2 would be any fun.
>Get the original if you can.

Look again. Dogic 2 has 10 colors (opposite sides the same color) against 12 on the regular Dogic. The mechanism is the same. Whilst solving the tips is trivial on the regular Dogic, it's much harder on Dogic 2.
Philip K


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 Post subject: 1 or 2, which is more difficult?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2000 7:11 pm 
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Hello Philip. It has been awhile since we talked. I did not stop to think that Dogic 2 had only 10 colors. But now that I have thought about it for awhile, I still don't see how this would be more difficult. I solve the Dogic by doing all the faces first and then moving them around to the proper position and orientation. The tips don't seem any different to me. Correct me if I am wrong but don't we rule out orientation on the Dogic 2?


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 Post subject: Re: 1 or 2, which is more difficult?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2000 4:53 am 
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Hi Jake,
It depends on how you approach the Puzzles. I solve Dogic 1 by first doing the 12 "centres" like if it was an Impossiball. Of course during this stage the tips are further mixed. When the centres are in place, I do the 12 tips. This last stage now easy since the order of the 5 pieces at each tip doesn't matter - they're all the same color. With Dogic 2 on the other hand, I solve it side by side. The order of the 5 pieces at each tip now matters, and that is why I find this more difficult. When the sides are all of one color, I again work the puzzle like an Impossiball to get opposite sides the same color. One could say the two versions can be solved opposite ways in respect to each other. I may be wrong but it sounds like your solution for Dogic 1 is about as complex as mine for Dogic 2 (so we're both right).
Philip


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 Post subject: An in depth discussion on Dogic 1 & 2
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 4:53 am 
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just kidding folks.

Thanks Philip.

Hope someone benefits from this information.

Cheers.

-the biffman


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