Online since 2002. Over 3300 puzzles, 2600 worldwide members, and 270,000 messages.

TwistyPuzzles.com Forum

It is currently Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:22 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm
Hello!
This puzzle recently came to me. I was wondering if someone could confirm for me that it's actually possible to separate the two loops? I've been having more problems with this than most of the puzzles of a similar style I have.
If anyone recognises it, can they give me some idea of a 'difficulty rating' ?


Attachments:
puzzle.jpg
puzzle.jpg [ 50.4 KiB | Viewed 2297 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:13 pm
I've not seen this before, but here's my guess (given that the loops on the right look more elongated than those on the left):

1. Set the puzzle down as you have it shown in the picture
2. Flip the right set of loops over 180 degrees to lie on top of the left set
3. Slide these loops all the way to the right
4. Then slide these loops back to the left so that the bottom one of these loops can pass between the two loops on the left/bottom set (which should stay put throughout this sequence).

I think they should then come apart... :D

_________________
If you want something you’ve never had, you’ve got to do something you’ve never done - Thomas Jefferson


Last edited by KelvinS on Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:59 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm
the angle and the way they're joined means you cannot lie one over another. they won't 'flip' into each other. I thought it was something like that originally for a while but there's no way (i've found) to get them the same way round, instead of opposite. :(


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:13 pm
Then try doing step 3 at the same time as step 2 - slide to the right as you flip em over to the left ...

_________________
If you want something you’ve never had, you’ve got to do something you’ve never done - Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:18 pm
Location: MA, USA
Dremel/blowtorch/Chuck Norris.



Solved.
:D


EDIT: Try lifting up the right one about 45* and pushing it through the left one. That's just my guess, I'm sure it can't be that easy...

_________________
ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Here is a solution from the original patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cyZfAAAAEBAJ

Very interesting, where did you find it?

_________________
I will not Reason and Compare: my business is to Create. -William Blake

Videos on Youtube!

New Designs on Shapeways!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:13 pm
Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
Here is a solution from the original patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cyZfAAAAEBAJ

Very interesting, where did you find it?

Now that's cheating ... but also VERY resourceful, I'm impressed! :lol:

_________________
If you want something you’ve never had, you’ve got to do something you’ve never done - Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:15 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm
Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
Here is a solution from the original patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cyZfAAAAEBAJ

Very interesting, where did you find it?


AH!

That explains alot, the first move, bringing the larger over the smaller is quite stiff, I always assume that puzzles like this will have quite easy solutions with no 'forced' moves and I just have to find them.
it came from Village Games In Camden, London. I try to always pick up a metal puzzle when i'm in the area.

How on earth did you find the patent? I did a fair amount of searching trying to find out more about it but never found anything.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 8:50 am
Location: chicago, IL area U.S.A
Does anyone know if this is available anywhere else? I have a huge collection of wire puzzles, but somehow don't have that one and would love to add it to the collection.

-d


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm
I didn't see it anywhere online when I was looking for more information about it,
you could try giving village games a call : +44 20 7485 0653, the people who work there are very nice.

When I got the puzzle it was one of the ones hanging from the hooks on the ceiling, and called 'handcuffs'

oh, I just found an email address : sales@villagegames.com

I hope that helps.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:38 am
Location: Connecticut
This puzzle is usually called "C and U."
In Dick Hess' Compendium, it is listed as F030.

I show it on my Tanglements page, in the Hard Wire section (scroll down to F030) and give a link to the patent there.
http://robspuzzlepage.com/tanglement.htm#hardwire

It is included in a tanglement set available from Torito:
http://torito.jp/shopping/_big-chienowa1.shtml

And also available individually:
http://torito.jp/shopping/_teaserring-cu.shtml

_________________
http://robspuzzlepage.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Metal Puzzle
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 8:50 am
Location: chicago, IL area U.S.A
I forgot all about that Dick Hess book, I should really dig it out and flip through it some more. Thanks for reminding me of that Rob.

-d


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Forum powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group