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 Post subject: Rubik's 360
PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:52 pm 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/44 ... s-360.html

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/44 ... eview.html

http://www.rubiks.ru/PDF/EzhineJan09.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:05 pm 
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This is a remake of an old puzzle. I will have to look it up, but I think it's from the 1950's or 1960's. I've seen quite a few of the old one's on ebay under (nevermind, that would be giving away a secret). It looks like it might have 2 rings instead of one like the old ones. More of a dexterity puzzle I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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'Student Joel Gouly , 18, from Leeds, who can solve the Rubik’s Cube blindfolded in under one minute, said: “It looks like more of a physical game that requires dexterity whereas the Cube is something to ponder but there’s no reason it can’t catch on."'

That's right :D (That's me, by the way :P)

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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:lol: It kind of looks like a toy my guinnea pig has :lol: But that one lights up and the 360 doesn't seem to.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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It looks like a great puzzle, and I am surely going to buy one when they come out in August, but I just cannot see this puzzle catching on as well as the original Rubik's Cube did in 1980.

Just my 2 cents worth! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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:shock: Looks like pantazi could have had a hand in this? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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As others have said, it does indeed look like more of a dexterity puzzle than anything else. I don't know why people think this will be so big. In fact, it seems like the media is unaware of or simply ignores Ernő's other puzzles as well as all of ours.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Well for most people when they hear Rubiks the only thing they think of is Rubiks cube(3x3) or lately for me Rubiks magic,

People who don't spend much time about puzzles(like us all) probably haven't even heard of a megaminx or pyraminx, which I think we all have ^^.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Danny Devitt wrote:
As others have said, it does indeed look like more of a dexterity puzzle than anything else. I don't know why people think this will be so big. In fact, it seems like the media is unaware of or simply ignores Ernő's other puzzles as well as all of ours.


I work for a media monitoring company so I see this pattern all the time. The answer is pretty simple.

People submit a story for distribution to the media network in the forum of a release where it can be picked up by any number of "Me Too" agencies. If a story sounds like it has legs, it'll get picked up by every minor paper or station. Mention the terms: "rubik's is back" and you're likely to get some interest.

The more interest by top feeding stations, the more interest by everyone else.

They won't be interested in this community because we're not news. Something by the original inventor (presuming this really the case) will pick up the ears of the people working in outlets who are of the age that were around when the cube came out.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Most probably will get one to try out on the puzzle. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Has anyone located the patent for this?

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Neither a google patent search nor a search on the US Patent and Trademark Office's site yielded anything. But then again, the second site also produced nothing for "rubik's."

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Thien wrote:
:shock: Looks like pantazi could have had a hand in this? :shock:


This is clearly a dexterity puzzle. The Cubedron, The FLiP FLiP, the Krystalledron and the Platonedron (soon photos of it)
are of a class of their own with a new mechanism that no other puzzle has.

I will probably get one 360 at the Nuremberg Fair, but just for collecting purposes.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Erno will be demonstrating the puzzle on video tomorrow Feb 5: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 25,00.html

Which probably means in 2 days as I'm currently Feb 4, but being a US site it's currently Feb 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Lucas Garron wrote:
I WANT A DOMINO.
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i second that

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Without having seen this "puzzle" in real life myself, i would say that the rubiks 360 looks about as lame as the rubiks revolution. In my opinion this does not look like a real twisty puzzle to me, more like a 3d maze thingy ...

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Lucas Garron wrote:
I WANT A DOMINO.
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You can easily get a domino if you are willing to flesh out. Besides i would guess to build your own version is very doable. And as a last resort you can make one by bandaging a regular 4x4x4 cube for example .... Now that won't be the real thing. But it would "work the same" :lol:

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PS! I want a gigaminx or teraminx :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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The video is out:

http://www.time.com/time/video/?bcpid=1 ... 0139824001

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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Hi :-)

Ok, i saw the video. And i'm still not convinced by this "puzzle". I cannot see how this can take off. Of course when it has the Rubik name attached to it, it will create a lot of interest - but that's about it. I can see this fade away very quickly, just like Rubik's Revolution.

If i dare say so - i simply think Rubik does not fully understand what makes Rubik's Cube and other 3d twisty puzzles so intriguing and fun to play with. If he did, he would not design things like the Revolution and the 360. Well unless of course, if it's for the money :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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It's kind of weird, too, he invented what I am completely obsessed with, but hasn't made much that was all that incredible since!

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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perfredlund wrote:
Lucas Garron wrote:
I WANT A DOMINO.
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You can easily get a domino if you are willing to flesh out. Besides i would guess to build your own version is very doable. And as a last resort you can make one by bandaging a regular 4x4x4 cube for example .... Now that won't be the real thing. But it would "work the same" :lol:

Per

PS! I want a gigaminx or teraminx :mrgreen:


i believe he mean that he wants them to be in production again, and on shelves

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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http://www.rubiks.com/Shop/Products/Rubiks%20360.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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perfredlund wrote:
Hi :-)

Ok, i saw the video. And i'm still not convinced by this "puzzle". I cannot see how this can take off. Of course when it has the Rubik name attached to it, it will create a lot of interest - but that's about it. I can see this fade away very quickly, just like Rubik's Revolution.

If i dare say so - i simply think Rubik does not fully understand what makes Rubik's Cube and other 3d twisty puzzles so intriguing and fun to play with. If he did, he would not design things like the Revolution and the 360. Well unless of course, if it's for the money :mrgreen:

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I think that he's trying to appeal to the new audience of kids and adults that require instant gratification and simply do not have the attention span to figure out puzzles that do not light up or make noises. I understand that there are still plenty of people that would love to have more twisty-type puzzles like the original 3x3, but the market is most likely very small compared to the number of "average joes" who need constant stimulation.

If this is the case, I'm sad to hear it, mainly seeing the similarities with the move Nintendo made. The Wii is a novel and awesome system, but I've found (personally) that it can get old quick. Impulse buyers of today will quickly buy it, play it, and get tired of it. A report was done about the Wii Fit showing that people would buy it but not want to put forth the effort to actually use it, so it now sits collecting dust in homes everywhere simply because of the marketing power of Nintendo and the allure of health through video games. I understand that this is not the case for everyone, but I'm simply relating my person experience.

Think about it like this: Most people, before the Rubik's "revival" of late, would most likely spend less time figuring out the cube than playing video games (for example), so sales are not as good as they should be. The Revolution is introduced, with its flashing lights and noise to compete with the constant stimulation of video games, and people buy it, play it, and get tired of it; much like the Wii (remember, in my person experience). I would really like for there to be more twistypuzzles myself, but I'm afraid that it would not be profitable, and that's business. Hopefully profit will be overlooked in the future so that we can see more new twistypuzzles from Rubik.


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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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juanan wrote:
http://www.rubiks.com/Shop/Products/Rubiks%20360.aspx

Quote from that page: "The Rubik’s 360 is set to repeat the success of the maddening Cube"

That's it, the Rubik's people have officially become completely delusional.


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 Post subject: Re: Rubik's 360
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I think the 2x2 could have been a huge hit in the 80's if he had a better mechanism and marketing. releasing horrible products like the ICE and revolution is a good way to kill a brand and turn your customers away. lights out should have been a rubik product instead of a tiger product. the lights out cube could do way better than revolution and still appeal to everyone. tiger never sold very many but rubik could have hyped it up in place of the revolution and double the sales of that piece of poop. the 360 is using the iconic six-color-one-solution gimmick. and yes its a lot of math, its physics. you will see optimal solves I'm certain.

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