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 Post subject: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:16 pm 
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Hello all!

I think this doesn't belong to Puzzle Building simply since it's such a simple puzzle. And I just wanted to show the new SuperSquare1 too.

From the new AWESOME Super Square 1 puzzle it's so easy to get the Star Prism done, simply by swaping pieces, then making a couple of new stickers.
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I've also disassembled the SuperSquare and taken some pictures of the mechanism:

http://www.darubik.com/?page_id=204

I personally love them. Hope you too!

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:36 pm 
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nice, I imagine the orientation on the middle layers is a bit painful


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Wow! Fantastic.


I can't wait to see a 4 layer Dodecagonal Prism. :P

I need to get me one of those.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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I want to see a 4-layer square-2, myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:42 pm 
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Nice job!
I knew I should have ordered more of the Super Square 1s ! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:40 am 
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nice mods David

I did it too.....

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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REALLY beautiful mods!!! David and Juanan! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:31 pm 
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Very cool mods!

Do different Super Square-1's have different colors on the top and bottom? Mine is red/orange. Yours are green/blue and white/yellow. I'd hope there would be some consistency...

BTW, how do you take these things apart?


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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How do you open up this puzzle? I've bought a number of them to attempt the star cube you made, but don't know how to open it. This is my first attempt at making a puzzle so please don't laugh at me.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Look at this pic

Between the 2 fiirst layers and the other two.

There is the line of the screw. See that this line is perpendicular to the upper white line.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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nice mods juanillo :P :P :P :P

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Thanks Juanan! I did it! Woo Hoo! 20 years of playing with these things and I finally built one! Ok, so it was simple, but remember, I'm not one of those engineering types. I'm an English Teacher. And darned proud of myself right now too!

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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I was gonna order two but now I think that might not be enough! :) I really want to try to make a couple of these. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Thanks for the tip, juanan.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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They are now selling a white one:

http://www.cube4you.com/390_White-Four- ... are-1.html

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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A very nice (and arguably superior) alternative to making a four layer puck.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Aww, I ordered a bunch of them, and now they have the white ones. I ordered too early, I guess. Ah well.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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so if I understand correctly, there are no modifications to be made to anything in order to create these different variations? All you're doing is swapping pieces from different puzzles (assuming you have enough puzzles to swap pieces from)?

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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trixter wrote:
so if I understand correctly, there are no modifications to be made to anything in order to create these different variations? All you're doing is swapping pieces from different puzzles (assuming you have enough puzzles to swap pieces from)?


Yes, only swapping pieces you can make this.

with 3 puzzles you can make 2 star prisms and 1 dodecagonal prism . The problem ............ the stickers

Are not enough for the 3 puzzles.....

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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juanan wrote:
The problem ............ the stickers are not enough for the 3 puzzles.....
:?: Sorry, I don't get it, why would that be the case?
If you get a set of stickers per Super-Square-1 you order, you should have stickers for all pieces you re-use. Or don't you get stickers at all? In that case you'd have to cut them youself from cubesmith vinyls, in which case you can prepare as many as needed. So either way, I don't get it ...
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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:53 am 
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The dodecagonal prism has 14 faces, then you need 14 colours.

The stickers of the 4 layes saquare1, are of 6 colours.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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I agree...I don't really get it either...since the puzzles come with stickers and each piece would have a sticker...when it's transferred from one puzzle to the next, it would still be stickered...maybe you mean since the pieces (such as the small pizza slice pieces) come from different sides of the puzzle to make one side on the 'new' puzzle, they aren't the same color...therefore you need to cut more of the same color to match the new side of the 'new' puzzle? ....I think that's what you mean...

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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juanan wrote:
The dodecagonal prism has 14 faces, then you need 14 colours.
The stickers of the 4 layes saquare1, are of 6 colours.
Right, I see what you mean. But having all 14 faces different colors would make solving quite easy, since you could arrange the pieces in any configuration. Having two-coloured pieces would make life much more difficult, since the orientation of the pieces has to be followed (a bit like on a supercube). Either way, it would require manual work to prepare stickers ...
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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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There are enough stickers to physically cover all the faces, but to make it look good, you'll need to make yourself some stickers.
I did this by buying a bunch of different Square-1 sheets from cubesmith. He has tons of great colors.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:06 pm 
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so, when taking the puzzle apart you have to push a screwdriver down between the layers of it and fish around for a screw? how would you get it back in??


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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it's a bit easier to put it back together, because you can find the screw when the puzzle is very loose no problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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that makes sense, thanks :)


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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How do you solve the regular one? Is it hard? I mean the 4 layer one. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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I would guess that it's like solving two square-1's at the same time. the 1st and 4th layers are the top and bottom layers of a square-1 and the 2nd and 3rd are another. I don't have one though so this is only a guess

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Yeah, I solve it from the inside out.

Basically, I start with cube shape on both layers, doing them simultaneously. Then I use my normal square-1 method on the inner layer, which reduces the puzzle to a normal square-1.

The hardest part is figuring out corner "orientation" on the inner layers. You have to know your color scheme and just see which ones are bad and which are good.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:56 pm 
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Solving the Super Square 1 is like solving the Square 1 two times. The only caveat this time around is making sure that you have "one piece of each" in each middle layer which can be a bit tricky given that those pieces come in identical pairs. (As blade740 pointed out, you also need to make sure that the corners are oriented properly.)

All in all, I was expecting a new challenge :(.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Rubo d Cubik wrote:
All in all, I was expecting a new challenge :(.

I wouldn't really have expected it to be. It's basically the same concept as a 3x3x4. It's a double domino.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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sick, i was gona buy one but now looks like ill be buying 4. for 1 normal one, 1 cylinder and 2 star prisms:)

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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Neix wrote:
sick, i was gona buy one but now looks like ill be buying 4. for 1 normal one, 1 cylinder and 2 star prisms:)


Four is only enough for 1 normal one, 1 dodecagonal prism and 1 star prism, and you'll end up with leftover pieces.

(Yes I realize this is an old thread that got bumped, but I'm sure he's already been PMed about this. I was just replying to this post.)


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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aliengrey wrote:
Neix wrote:
sick, i was gona buy one but now looks like ill be buying 4. for 1 normal one, 1 cylinder and 2 star prisms:)


Four is only enough for 1 normal one, 1 dodecagonal prism and 1 star prism, and you'll end up with leftover pieces.

(Yes I realize this is an old thread that got bumped, but I'm sure he's already been PMed about this. I was just replying to this post.)


Actually, each cube has 4*4 = 16 corner pieces and 4x4 = 16 edge pieces. For a star prism you need 6*4 = 24 corner pieces and for a dodecagonal prism you need 12*4 = 48 edge pieces.

If he buys 3 puzzles to mod he gets 3*16 = 48 of each, so he can make exactly 2 = 48/24 star prisms and 1 = 48/48 dodecagonal prism. And if he buys 4 he has one normal super sq-1 left over :D


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 Post subject: Re: Super Square 1 and Super Square 1 Star Prism
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Alex wrote:
aliengrey wrote:
Neix wrote:
sick, i was gona buy one but now looks like ill be buying 4. for 1 normal one, 1 cylinder and 2 star prisms:)


Four is only enough for 1 normal one, 1 dodecagonal prism and 1 star prism, and you'll end up with leftover pieces.

(Yes I realize this is an old thread that got bumped, but I'm sure he's already been PMed about this. I was just replying to this post.)


Actually, each cube has 4*4 = 16 corner pieces and 4x4 = 16 edge pieces. For a star prism you need 6*4 = 24 corner pieces and for a dodecagonal prism you need 12*4 = 48 edge pieces.

If he buys 3 puzzles to mod he gets 3*16 = 48 of each, so he can make exactly 2 = 48/24 star prisms and 1 = 48/48 dodecagonal prism. And if he buys 4 he has one normal super sq-1 left over :D


Wow. I'd thought for a while that you'd end up with extra pieces. I guess I'd never really thought about it hard. :P


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