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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:38 pm 
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can somebody upload some .STL file or something so i can start up on mine? i don't have the patients to start mine from scratch.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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super_genius wrote:
can somebody upload some .STL file or something so i can start up on mine? i don't have the patients to start mine from scratch.

Pretty sure that's not gonna happen. Learn some patience and make your own. I'm sure that people would be more than willing to help you, but we're not just going to hand our files over.

Please take the time to post with correct spelling and grammar. And also "start up on MINE" is probably a bad way to ask somebody for THEIR designs.
Though I do apologize if English is not your first language.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Indeed. After putting in so many hours into the design, and even more energy in constructing it without knowing the design would even work right makes it all the more offensive when you demand someone to hand over what they created and call it yours. Follow Tylers advice and learn to build one on your own. Danny had to. and next time. you could be just a tad bit more polite.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Jeez guys, I understand he is a bit demanding, but overreaction much?

But I do agree somewhat, Drew has no obligation to upload STL files for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Drew *just* finished the very first one in history, and the guy is asking for files to "start up on his". I nearly spit my drink out on my keyboard when I read that one, I laughed so hard. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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how many hours did it take to:
design
mold and cast
sticker

total cost?


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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At leaste 60 hours to smooth the masters, then mold/cast, if you include design time, then it took over 80 hours (4 revisions of design), 1.5 hours to sticker.

so you're looking at 81.5 hours to build.

the cost of supplies and masters was $400, so ad that to the time, and we're looking at a pretty hefty investment to build

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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I like a lot your new signature Drewseph, really nice....is that the Teraminx that will be in auction soon???


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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yes it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Drewseph, that is a most impressive signature photograph.
I can't think why there are two PC speakers at the top right :)

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Wow! The teraminx in your signature looks almost spherical from that head-on angle!

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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$2,500 at least.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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60 hours to smooth the masters!!!


How can that be possible, how did you do it? Sanding would take at most like 3 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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At leaste 60 hours to smooth the masters, then mold/cast

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Wow... man am I glad I started this thread otherwise the idea might not have actually progressed as fast as this. Congratulations man, I'm so glad someone was able to pick up the slack I was leaving behind. I really wanted to see this thing finished but I just didn't have the time or true drive to get this thing done fast. Truth be told, I'm still fine-tuning my designs. I've CADed and printed off about 3 sets so far, none to my liking. (I have a 3D printer at my school that I can use at a highly highly discounted price, overall those 3 prints were less than $150). I do have to say I'm a little disappointed that I wasn't the one to make the first teraminx, but hey, with the time I was taking, I don't blame you for taking it into your own hands.

The puzzle looks great, hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on one someday, either by your making or my own.

Hm... maybe I'll just drop my teraminx production and head right on to the petaminx...


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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WOW, GarrettDickerson!!

about time you showed your face! Glad to have you back!

please, post some pics of your pieces here, I'd like to see what you managed to come up with as the meck, Danny's is totally different from min (cone mech)


and thanks for the compliments. I'm sorry to have stolen your prize =) however I actually saw that Danny was picking up on the project a few months after you, and then he slacked, so I picked up on his. so if it weren't for you two I too would not have the drive to step up and tackle it. so thank you for the inspiration!

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Hey Garret, I thought you'd fallen off the face of the earth or something! And is there any chance that some o the twistypuzzle members can get files printed from you for these nice discounted rates?

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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sorry, sorry. that was not me. I had a friend over and he's into twisty puzzles, but he's a noob. I wouldn't ask for someone elses work. He wanted to send the file to a 3d printer and was expecting a whole stickered teraminx to come out. sorry about that everyone. He's not allowed on my computer anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Petaminx? You're kidding right? :lol:
Wouldn't it be examinx next though?

Scott, did you mean to direct that post to Garrett, not me?

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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LOL, Petaminx is next, Exa would be 5 layers. but after Tera, the size of the puzzle becomes inefficient to handle. we're talking bowling ball size

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Drewseph wrote:
LOL, PEtaminx is next, Exa would be 5 layers. but after Tera, the size of the puzzle becomes inefficient to handle. we're talking bowling ball size


:twisted:

I have an idea for a sick joke
(gets out massive sheets of plastic).


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Draconic wrote:
I have an idea for a sick joke
(gets out massive sheets of plastic).

Just FYI, the "first" gigaminx photo was posted here a couple years back .... on April 1st.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Some sick part of me wants to make the single coolest puzzle ever, and then unleash it upon the public on April 1st.

You have to admit that almost everyone would be fooled. They'd look at the date and be fooled into thinking it was a hoax. Unfortunately that requires me actually making the single coolest puzzle ever, so it isn't going to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Speaking of single coolest puzzle, I find it very hard to decide between the Teraminx, Pentultimate, and V-Cube for the Puzzle of the Year... This is going to take a LOT of thought. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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soo..... when are we gonna see this thing scrambled?

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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when whoever wins the auction scrambles it and takes a picture. I don't think I have the guts to scramble it

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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you built it and your not going to run through a solve!?!?!

send it to me, ill do it on your behalf


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Are the pieces able to be replicated with those so-called "plastic 3D printers?" That's the way to mass-produce them. This is a superb build!


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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you should at least scramble it, for us!! and if you can't solve it just re-assemble it!!! :scrambled: :solved: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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the caps are glued down. so I can't disassemble it easily. so, no I will not scramble it =)

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Are the pieces able to be replicated with those so-called "plastic 3D printers?"


to print just 30 pieces it cost me $180 plus shipping. multiply that by 18.5 and you get the cost for printing a full puzzle set.... enough to only make a SINGLE puzzle

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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and based on the auction, youd still come out with a pretty penny

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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well then lets hope that whoever buys this thing will be kind enough to post scrambled pictures..

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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and based on the auction, youd still come out with a pretty penny

congrats



$180 x 18.5 = $3330, and that is just for the parts. The puzzle in the auction only sold for $2225.

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and based on the auction, youd still come out with a pretty penny

congrats



$180 x 18.5 = $3330, and that is just for the parts. The puzzle in the auction only sold for $2225.
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No, that price is the cost of 3d printing an entire puzzle if I am not mistaken. This is a cast puzzle.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
QUINBLZ wrote:
and based on the auction, youd still come out with a pretty penny

congrats



$180 x 18.5 = $3330, and that is just for the parts. The puzzle in the auction only sold for $2225.

I think that comment was in response to someone saying they should just all be printed. I don't think Drew printed all of them. It appears that he had the masters printed ($180 for 30 pieces), then he molded the rest. That would bring the cost down considerably. Still, he had to put in a tremendous amount of time and work on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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In addition to the huge cost of printing all the parts is the huge amount of labor to sand and finish all of the printed parts.
Making a few masters and then molds definitely seems like the way to go. Drewseph seems to be able to crank out cast pieces like a popcorn machine :)

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Just a random note on something I just calculated:

Number of possible positions for a Teraminx:

My Teraminx fits in a cube 11x11x11cm

The teraminx has a grand total of 1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions.

If we grouped them all together we get a giant cube 7 x 10^144 light years per edge.

This cube is 3.43 x 10^434 Cubic light-years


The universe is supposedly 26 x 10^9 light-years in diameter. If we were to imagine the universe as a giant cube we'd get have a cube consisting of:

1.7576 x 10^31 Cubic light-years


3.43 x 10^434 = 1.95 x 10^432
1.7576 x 10^31


or, in other words, we can fill:

1,951,524,806,554,392,353,208,921,256,258,500,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000


Universes with Teraminxes!


Please correct me if this is wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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crazy!

just a quick question, what is the edge length on the teraminx?

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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around 4.5cm per edge, it stands 11cm

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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Wrong, It rolls 11cm tall. Great job!

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Steryne wrote:
Wrong, It rolls 11cm tall. Great job!

Actually, with an edge length of 4.5 cm the containing sphere is ~12.6 cm in diameter. Therefore it rolls about 13 cm tall. 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Teraminx
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Wrong (insert really cool math and a 8-) )It is pillowed not a sphere, I decree it is really ~12 tall. Only drew would know though.

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Aha! Don't forget that while it rolls its height varies depending on whether it's standing on a face, edge, or vertex. The distance between opposite vertexes is about 12.6 cm (based on the 4.5 cm edge estimate). For a regular dodecahedron the "containing sphere" matches the maximum height (vertex-to-vertex).


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I have an A- in algerabra so I'll take your word on it.

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hey I know I'm new to the forum, and I'm pretty late on this post, but to reply to the possible number of combinations of pieces, i did the math awhile back using a modified equation for the megaminx.

20!*3^19*30!*2^29*360!/4


Tyler was close, but when you had your notation, you were using the same number as there were pieces, and for example with 20 corner pieces, it is: 20!*3^19 instead of:20!*3^20. this is because the orientation of the 20th corner piece depends on the orientation and location of the preceding 19 corners. the notation applies for the the edge pieces as well, you were only one number off. but as for the other pieces, they only have 1 orientation, so you can just use 360! THEN you can finish the equation by dividing by 4.

All together i ended up getting this for an answer:

4.009838867183784642305908​4168255e+833


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I'm locking this thread so there will be no more posts made! Please guys, I don't care if you are new. a 3 year old bump? A bit of common sense please. Go back and read the rules. I am sure there is one about this. If not, there is an unwritten one.

I've left the post made because it seems to say something, but in future-make a new posting.

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