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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:53 pm 
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here is my newest puzzle. a 5x5x5 cylindar. i hope you all like it.


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Hi Adam!

Does it completely work like a common 5x5x5 cube?

Best regards - Frank


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Cool!
Admire your work!

Just a stupid question:
How come the vertical edges have curved "cuts"?


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Adam is that what u were talking about to me?
Anyways nice job

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... intimidating.

Nice work adam. Also yea, why do the vertical slices flare out in that curvy cubie.

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The curvy lines are due to the fact that you have to cut into the mechanism to achieve this puzzle. Remember a 5x5x5 is not merely a stack of 125 mini cubes.

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Doh!
So obvious when explained...
Look at the scrambled picture. In the bottom left the curved cubie is placed right next to a topface cubie (+center) and there you can see what Tony explained...


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:D

Simply beautiful :D

Who will be the first to make a cycinder 6x6x6 (from Olympicube 6a/b) ??
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Trick question! The correct answer is nobody, because nobody will ever get them. lol.

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Be nice.

Awesome work, Adam, I din't think it was feasible.

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Scott Bedard wrote:
Trick question! The correct answer is nobody, because nobody will ever get them. lol.


Bitter, party of one? Bitter, party of one. Please come to the nearest curtesy telephone.

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Okay to answer some questions.

Frank: it does work exactly like a 5x5x5 cube. it was made with an eastsheen cube. i dont think it would be possible with a rubiks version.

Harra: the vertical edges have curved cuts because of the mechanism, just like Tony Fisher said.

Rick: No this is not the puzzle that i was talking to you about.

Tony: thanks for answering that for me.

perfredlund: Thank you

Scott: Be nice. the 6x6x6 will come out one day and then you will be eating all of your words

Apok: thanks, i didnt think it was able as well until i started actually looking at the mechanism.

Ben: LOL


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Talking about curvy lines. I wonder if anyone remembers my very first post. It was about my Truncated 5x5x5 Cuboctahedron. There is a limit to how much you can truncate a puzzle before it stops working. This puzzle was right at the edge of that limit.

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A 6x6x6 or 7x7x7 cylinder would be good but it would probably be necessary to build up the edges first so less actual puzzle would need cutting away.

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whats wierd about this puzzle is that it turns so beautifly. some truncated puzzles lock up and have horrible turning, but this one turns great


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Adam Zamora wrote:
Scott: Be nice. the 6x6x6 will come out one day and then you will be eating all of your words


Phht, being nice about it is no fun. And yea, i know... SOME DAY (probably some day far, far in the future, lol ;) ) we will have this puzzle... but until then, expect more comments from me. :P

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Congradulations to Kal El the new owner of this puzzle!


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Who will make the first 5x5x5 sphere now? :D

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i actually was planning on doing a 5x5x5 sphere. the thing is though that there isnt really enough material on the inner pieces to make it feasable. thats why i made the cylindar.

i do however have an idea that if you make a 5x5x5 into a extened 5x5x5 or make it look like a 7x7x7 all extended then you would have enough material to make it into a sphere. the problem arrises where do you get blocks that are the size of a 5x5x5 piece. i have looked into this as well. at my local plastic store i can order plastic blocks the same size as the 5x5x5 pieces. but the issue is that these blocks would be so expensive that i would not want to do it.


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I was scouering (spelling?) eBay for dice* and got the idea of looking at how different sizes was more or less common, and then I thought of looking at the sizes that occur in cubes; 12, 17, 18, 19, 25mm.

I found a couple of them 12mm dice that would be the size you search for (suppose you laned on using eastsheen since I believe a cube with the side 7x18mm would be a little to big, even if that would just end up being the diabeter of a sphere) I think I found some four a price like 0.20USD each, so if you can live with that the inner parts of the extensions are die-sides, then I believe it isn't that high a price, ey?

*Sorry, but planing on copying your dice cube :oops: , but with a little twist, sice I have the intention of making every part from dice (if I ever get around doing it anyway). I thought it would be fun to try and even make the spindle out of a die, but I don't think I will be able to :(


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well even if you can get cubes for the 5x5x5 to make it into a 7x7x7 extended for $.20 each thats about $34 for just the extended pieces not to mention the 5x5x5 to start out with


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Adam Zamora wrote:
well even if you can get cubes for the 5x5x5 to make it into a 7x7x7 extended for $.20 each thats about $34 for just the extended pieces not to mention the 5x5x5 to start out with


Yeah, you are right, didn't thought of the fact there were som many needed (I sure am dumb when I am tired)

But if you would end up precisioncutting them for the spherical shape you might be able to use some cubies for two places, but I recon the price would still be very high... :P :P


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yeah around $70 is alot for just the pieces in order to make 1 puzzle. i bet if mefferts got the parts needed he can remachine the parts so that he can make a 5x5x5 and 4x4x4 sphere. oh well back to daydreaming


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Adam Zamora wrote:
well even if you can get cubes for the 5x5x5 to make it into a 7x7x7 extended for $.20 each thats about $34 for just the extended pieces not to mention the 5x5x5 to start out with


Its worse then that... isn't it. For 2 oposite faces you need:

7x7x2 = 98

for the 5 bands between those two faces you need

24x5 = 120

That comes to 218. I'm sure the 8 corners will be lost when you cut it down to a sphere so say 210. That comes to $42.

Hmmm... maybe the edge pieces aren't needed either. Then this becomes

5x5x6 = 150 (nope that comes to $30)

I guess what I need to do is enclose a sphere inside a 7x7x7 and see just how many cubes are completely outside the sphere. But as $34 is between my estimates of $42 and $30 I guess you are probably correct after all.

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Instead of cutting down, perhaps just building up? Somehow use milliput or something th build up on peices, then use some sandpaper and a cone to sand it down?

I don't know. Don't listen to me. I've never attempted a mod before anyways.

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well essencially thats what we are trying to do with the blocks. is building up in block form then cutting down to round those blocks out to get a sphere form.


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Looks like you'd only need 150 cubes at most...

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And no... I don't have an Olympic cube. :(

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looks great Carl, i think thats what we are shooting for. the problem is now who is going to do it?

also i have had trouble getting stickers to stick on round surfaces. that might be an issue after someone finally builds it.


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Adam Zamora wrote:
well essencially thats what we are trying to do with the blocks. is building up in block form then cutting down to round those blocks out to get a sphere form.
What I was saying is that milliput might be cheaper than a bunch of dice.

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