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 Post subject: Also looking for help duplicating the following puzzles...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 2:31 am 
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Also on the cards to make duplicates of are:

TETRAHEDRON
http://www.virtualpuzzlemuseum.com/pyramidpuzzles5of5.htm

OCTAMINX
http://www.virtualpuzzlemuseum.com/8sidedpuzzles1of2.htm

TRAJBER'S OCTAHEDRON
http://www.virtualpuzzlemuseum.com/8sidedpuzzles2of2.htm

MENTAL BLOCK
http://www.virtualpuzzlemuseum.com/squarepuzzles4of5.htm

RUBIK'S DOMINO
http://www.virtualpuzzlemuseum.com/squarepuzzles5of5.htm

DINO CUBE
http://world.altavista.com/sites/ieen/pos/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmember.nifty.ne.jp%2Fpuzzle_cube%2Fsub22.html

LEAFLET DODECAHEDRON
http://world.altavista.com/sites/ieen/pos/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmember.nifty.ne.jp%2Fpuzzle_cube%2Fsub33.html

DIAMOND DOCEDAHEDRON
http://world.altavista.com/sites/ieen/pos/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmember.nifty.ne.jp%2Fpuzzle_cube%2Fsub34.html

RAINBOW CUBE
http://world.altavista.com/sites/ieen/pos/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmember.nifty.ne.jp%2Fpuzzle_cube%2Fsub42.html


If anyone has one or more of these puzzles and you want a free duplicate, get in touch. I can create several perfect copies of these, I just need an original first.

Thanks, guys.
Wayne


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 Post subject: Materials?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:06 pm 
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What are you planning on making the puzzles with? I doubt you could make it entirely of Miliput or something similar. Do you have access to a plastic molding machine like is used for puzzles?


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 Post subject: Ill have one of each!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:07 pm 
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Seriously Wayne, if you can pull these off, you could go into the business. There are plenty of ideas for puzzles here at twisty...


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 Post subject: Rainbow Cube
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:08 pm 
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Wayne,

I just ordered 2 rainbow's from mr. wantabe. when i get them, maybe we can work something out.


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 Post subject: Re: Also looking for help duplicating the following puzzles.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 3:09 pm 
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Hey, isnt that "tetrahedron" in the previous post a meier-halpern pyramid? Ive seen it on Japp's site


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 Post subject: puzzle mechanisms
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:15 pm 
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Most of these puzzles are (or can be) based on the mechanisms of existing well-known puzzles. Quite a few of these can therefore be made, if you have the patience, by beginning with an ordinary puzzle and changing its shape by cutting it down and/or adding on epoxy putty like milliput or some such.

TETRAHEDRON (Meier Halpern tetrahedron) - skewb mechanism.
OCTAMINX - pyraminx mechanism
TRAJBER'S OCTAHEDRON - 3x3x3 cube mechanism
MENTAL BLOCK - skewb mechanism
LEAFLET DODECAHEDRON - 2x2x2 cube mechanism
DIAMOND DOCEDAHEDRON - 3x3x3 cube mechanism

DINO CUBE - unique simple mechanism, similar to alexander's star.
RAINBOW CUBE - dino cube mechanism

BTW Wayne, I do have a domino (with the split axes mechanism), but I don't think it can come apart without breaking it.

Jaap
http://www.org2.com/jaap/puzzles


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 Post subject: Dominoe
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:31 pm 
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Wayne,

maybe it would be beneficial to have a Broken dominoe. This way, no one's thingy would be damaged.

Just a thought

tyler


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 Post subject: Materials
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:06 pm 
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Have you checked the articles on Twisty? You'll see exacly what I use. But in short:

* Silicon rubber for molding
* Polyurethane resin for casting.

Anyway, go to the main site and have a look at the new articles. (Can anyone confirm if Twisty is down, I can't even access my own site from here?)


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 Post subject: The trouble is...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:07 pm 
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It's just hard getting people who have the originals.


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 Post subject: Yep.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:09 pm 
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Yes it is. If you know anyone with a real one, let me know.


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 Post subject: ...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 5:31 pm 
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Yeah, it's just getting one. A broken domino would be more than fine. In fact, it would be more preferrable. All I need is the cross section, a corner, and edge and insides.


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 Post subject: Thanks
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:28 pm 
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Thanks, Tyler. Got your mail too. We'll work something out. Materials were supposed to arrive this week so I could begin work but they've been held up in the Christmas mail. Should arrive before new year.

Would be good to start work on them around then.


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 Post subject: Milliput & stuff
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:42 pm 
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Hi Jaap,

Yep, I could get into all that but it would make the job so much longer and harder. I'd rather duplicate an original which would be a perfect representation rather than an "interpretation".

As good as filiing milliput can be, there must some slight variances in the pieces.

Anyway, it's just easier to take an original if it exists.

About the domino. Send me a email. We might be able to do something about it.


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 Post subject: Rainbow cube
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 11:17 pm 
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Does it really make sense to copy the rainbow cube? After all, they can be bought for about $24. Wouldn't it take more than that just in materials and time? I can understand the other puzzles listed since they are quite rare and not produced today.

Who knows? Maybe the rainbow cube will show up at the Dollar Tree stores for only $1. (I don't know how much they cost to produce, but I would guess that the current sellers have a generous markup on their price.)

If you are still intent on copying a rainbow cube, I have 3 on order. One to keep original, another to try to turn into a Dino Cube, and a third for "who knows what" yet. I could probably loan you my spare. Already having a rainbow cube, however, I would probably prefer one of the other rare cubes that you plan on copying.

Doug.


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 Post subject: Other puzzles
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2001 11:20 pm 
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I don't know for sure, but I would guess that many of the puzzles you have listed were never produced on production molds, but rather made using prototyping methods such as polyuethane molding, milliput/putty, hacksaw, etc. I know that the puzzles that you mentioned which were made by Tony Fisher were definately made by modifying existing mechanisms. If production molds really had been made for some of these puzzles, then they probably wouldn't be as rare as they are today.

I had always hoped to modify some existing mechanisms to make some of these rare puzzles as Jaap described. Also, you may want to hold off on copying some of these puzzles since Meffert's will be soon announcing some new puzzles. Remember the Skewb Octahedron and Ultimate Skewb puzzles? Meffert released those last year by making modifications to his existing Skewb design. It wouldn't surprise me if the Octominx or other puzzles that uses his Pyraminx or Skewb mechanism could be the new releases he has mentioned.

Doug.


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 Post subject: Yep
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2001 11:17 pm 
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You're quite right, I'm probably better off to order them. I'd still be interested in finding the direct source though. As far as I can see, this puzzle has never been made before. I'm probably more interested in the insides.


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 Post subject: Fisher & domino
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2001 3:44 am 
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Things like Trajber's octa and the like, they may not have been made from molds but if the hand crafted piece was good enough, I can cast from that.

However, I've decided to move to duplicating a domino, fisher and fisher 2 cubes for the first part of the project and see how I go.

Managed to get some milliput today so we'll see how that material stands up as a single-piece prototyping material.


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 Post subject: Prototyping cubes
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 3:44 am 
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Good luck. I hope you much success. Let us know how things work out.


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