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 Post subject: My first mod! (false 3x3x3 perhaps?)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm 
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Ok, Thanks to sean and sandy for the encouragement. HEre is my first ever mod. Its not hard but im happy with it.

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Im sorry that it doesnt follow the correct color scheme or anyhting these were the only stickers I could find. Its not exactly very professionally made.

Also I am really sorry if anyone else has done this before I havent seen it anywhere but if it is on the net somewhere its pure coincidence.

I am acctually pretty please with how it turned out and I was wondering if anyone had an helpful links on info about making a better version? where to get nice stickey labels for the sides and how to fill in the gaps and things.

Any ideas for names?

Also, uh, does anyone have any ideas how to solve it? I mixed it up for the pictures and I cant even get is vaguely solved... Its REALLY hard. Im assuming even if you get it back into a 2x2x2 you will have all sorts of parity problems.

If anyone else has made/will made one I would LOVE to see it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:21 pm 
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That's very clever! I don't think I've seen this mod before. It looks
like a lot of fun.
As far as smoothing out the gaps where the cubies meet, look to Ton's
puzzle building page for some assistance. In his section on building a
2x2x6, he mentions using a low power soldering iron and some spare plastic to fill the gaps.

http://www.speedcubing.com/ton/2x2x6.htm

Other than that you could use some milliput and sand it smooth. If you are unfamiliar with milliput, go here:

http://www.milliput.com/home.htm

There are also many sources out there for colored vinyl electrical tape
which works great for stickering. This is the best one I've found:

http://www.identi-tape.com/harness.htm#fiberoptic

Some of the tapes come in an assortment of widths which would work well
for the larger cubies.

Keep up the good work!


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Very nice indeed! I can't say that I've seen that particular mod before... and believe me... I've seen ALOT of mods... I've got a dbase of hundreds on my hard drive...

Yeah, you could smooth out some of the edges but you should be VERY PROUD of your accomplishment! I'll have to give that one a try myself... What name have you given it?

As for solving?... I'd try to solve subgroups of the 4 pieces on the corners first then attack it as a 2x2x2... just my thoughts... the subgroups will be the fun part... ;)

_pink (on vacation this week!!!)


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I have never seen this mod before, but I imagined it quite vividly after your description. Well done dpurdu!

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I emailed the inventor of the 211x211x211 and he liked the mod. He said it is basically a scrambled 211x211x211. He had told me before that this was the most difficult mod. to solve in his opinion and he has solved all the revenge modifications.

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I'd love to see the solution for this... I'd also love to see some patterns for this one too!

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If I was wearing a hat, I would have taken it off. This definately goes into the category of "darn it, why didn't I think of this!".

A very attractive modification. Once the gaps are smooth and some nice stickers, you'll have great looking puzzle.

Well done, dpurdu, that is such a nice puzzle.

I guess all that's left is a name...

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Unless I misunderstand the naming scheme, this one is different from the 211^3, already because it has different pieces. And I don't think the movement is so restricted that some pieces must always stick together...

There are no parity problems after solving it to a 2x2x2. Just look at the eight corners, they're a normal 2x2 and if you connect the other pieces to the corners it's all good.

Very nice, btw :-)

Stefan


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 Post subject: 3x3x3 or 2x2x1 plus 4x4x2 or ...
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It's sort of a 3x3x3 or 2x2x1 plus 4x4x2 or ...

Excellent mod! Congratulations

Put it in the configuration of the large 2x2x2 type corners on one side like the bottom (solved) with the 4x4x4-type corners and edges on top - and move the smaller cubies around by means of 2x2x2 Last Level corner algs combined with u u' and u' moves on the second level from the top.

David J


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Thanks very much everyone! especially to Sean for the handy shopping list. Really glad everyone seems to like it. I am on my way into town to try and source a nice 4x4x4 to start work on. A little internet shopping then I will try and make a more pretty version.

I had a look at the 211x211 and while I dont pretend to know much about twisty puzzles it seems a bit different to me. I have been playing with it for about an hour and I cant finish a side so its certainly pretty hard.

I had a look at the 4x4x4 mods on this site and was wondering if there are any others that have been conceptualised but not made yet?

Also I cant think of a good name for it, I was thinking false 3x3x3 on the grounds that it has 3 cubies on any one side once its solved but its totally not a 3x3x3 but I dont really understand the numbering conventions for puzzles like this so I am open to suggestions.

Thanks again for the encouragement!


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dpurdu wrote:
I have been playing with it for about an hour and I cant finish a side so its certainly pretty hard.
Also I cant think of a good name for it


What about "Frustration Cube"?

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 Post subject: Name suggestion
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:34 am 
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Nice mod dpurdu!
When I saw the pictures, I was reminded to the subject I have to deal with in my masterthesis: What about "Octree Cube"?
For explanation: A Quadtree is the 3D-Version of this Scheme:
http://njord.umiacs.umd.edu:1601/users/brabec/quadtree/regions/regionquad.html
A method to efficiently divide space into smaller regions of interest.
Maybe its to technical...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:10 am 
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I'm glad you posted pictures. This thing looks pretty tricky!

I had basically the same solution idea as David proposed. It sounds like it'll work, but would probably take some careful planning to get right without too many iterations of the algorithms.

Sandy


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Congratulations!! This is a very interesting mod. I'll have to try it out myself as soon as I can.

I've been trying to visualize the available movements, and I don't think the relate well to the 3x3x3 cube. It seems to me that this would be better described as a Hybrid 2x2x2-4x4x4 (or perhaps Hybrid Mini-Master Cube?).

Regardless of the name, this is very nice!

Jorge


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:27 pm 
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oi oi

very complicated looking puzzle

please show pictures of when youv made your second


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 Post subject: Name that cube
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:44 pm 
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Forgive me for waking up in a silly mood ... but for a name how about calling it a mini-master bastard?

David J


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How about Diagonal 2x2x2 Hybrid

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Well seeing as the cube will always be associated with dpurdu...

Dpurdu Cube
(dip-per-doo cube)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:36 pm 
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I used scotch tape to make one of these out of a 4x4x4 for temporary. I only played with it for a couple minutes, but it is HARD! Very well done on the clever mod!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:17 pm 
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I have decided on the name for it unless anyone has any strenuous objection.

"The AI Cube"

AI as its my first mod, it also part of my wifes name (brownie points!) and it sounds kind of cool.

And yeah its VERY hard, it seems kind of like a bandage cube in some respects. Well in that its much more resricted in its movements than other twisties and I cant quite get used to it. It took me about an hour to do one of the mini corners....

Oh and thats very much everyone for name ideas. I thought hybrid cube sounded pretty cool but I went with AI in the end. I am going into town too look for some putty here to fill the cube. There are lods of gundam model shops and things here so I thought I might get lucky.


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Sandy, if we had a contest for "best thread of the year", this would get my vote.


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To Dpurdu:
Have you had any success in solving this mod?
Just Curious...

Andreas


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