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 Post subject: Puzzle Ideas
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:01 pm 
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I have some ideas for puzzles and since I don't have the materials to make custom puzzles I figured I'd share them here:

Siamese 2x2x3
Siamese 2x3x3
3-Layer Rubik's Cheese/UFO (On a UFO the twelve outside pieces are attached to six inner pieces. If the top and bottom layers were seperated, these could be extended out.)

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Ideas
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:55 am 
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insanity_cubed wrote:
I have some ideas for puzzles and since I don't have the materials to make custom puzzles I figured I'd share them here:

Siamese 2x2x3
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In this case, you can glue the two 2x2x3 together by sharing two cubies or three cubies between them. Which one do you mean? Or both of them?
BTW: Interesting Idea... :)
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Interesting idea!
In siamese cubes one cube duplicates another. I mean, when you solved one part you can apply your skills and algoritms to solve the second. Since both Domino and Slim Tower are rare ones, such a waste isn't reasonable from my point of view. But, you can join by 1x1x3 or 1x1x2 part Domino and Slim Tower into one puzzle. The "halves" of the puzzle will be different.
I've made a few 2x2x3 of good quality. But my two 2x3x3 aren't as good. I am trying to improve the technology and the third Domino is on the way. But I would use 2x2x2 instead of Domino.

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I was thinking the 2x2x3 could share a 1x1x2 group. This would allow the URF group on one and the DLB group on the other. The 2x3x3 could share either a 1x1x2 group or a 1x2x2 group. I'll post some pics from Blender when I get the chance.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:22 pm 
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Here are some images I made in Blender.


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After seeing these wonderful Blender files I can't help but marvel at the tremendous agrivation 'conjoined' cubes bring in the simple limiting of movement... nice idesa... now, model the mechs... :wink:

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Why are siamese cubes more popular than bandaged ones? It isn't like they're any different to solve.


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Bram wrote:
Why are siamese cubes more popular than bandaged ones? It isn't like they're any different to solve.


but they are different to solve, on a siamese, you can work around the bandaged cubies.

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skeneegee wrote:
but they are different to solve, on a siamese, you can work around the bandaged cubies.


That isn't right. If one glues an edge and the two corners next to it together on a regular cube then its motions will be exactly isomorphic to half of a siamese.


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Bram-o-matic 2000,

I see where you're comming from... Many (maybe all) Siam variants can be created in bandaged form to similate the repetitive portions. Thus saving cubes, shelf space and hands needed to hold a 20x siam chain...

I like the 'small footprint' of a bandaged cube but there's something 'artistic' or 'sculpture-like' in a nicely made siam variant...

I guess what makes them different to me is that the 'restriction' on a Siam seems like it's in more of a 'fixed' place or 'locked' into position. On a (normal) Bandaged Cube the restriction(s) float into different orientations, providing different levels of restriction and placement. For some strange reason I've always looked at Bandaged cubes in a similar way to Square 1.... I know, weird isn't it?....

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_pink wrote:
I guess what makes them different to me is that the 'restriction' on a Siam seems like it's in more of a 'fixed' place or 'locked' into position. On a (normal) Bandaged Cube the restriction(s) float into different orientations, providing different levels of restriction and placement. For some strange reason I've always looked at Bandaged cubes in a similar way to Square 1.... I know, weird isn't it?....


Yeah yeah, I'll bet you turn the back, bottom, and left faces of the 2x2x2, as well :-)


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Actually I much preffer to utilize the middle slices on my 2x2x2... :wink:

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insanity_cubed, nice blender work there! If you'd like a copy of my blender piece library, let me know (that goes for anyone else too).

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sausage, if you could e-mail [url=mailto:jedimaster9508@epix.net]me[/url] that blender file that would be great! Though to be honest, all I did for the pics is make a nice round cubie, copy it, and texture them. So I don't have any mechanism pics for them.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:43 pm 
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Wayne,

What file formats can Blender output? I'm interested in seeing if I can import them into Autocad Inventor... Lemme know.

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btw this is post 200 for me...


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