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 Post subject: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:43 pm 
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I too started on a cubic transformation of Eitan's Star a while back. Haven't had any time recently to continue it, but I'd love to get it done sometime soon. The mechanism is definitely too shallow to get a perfect cube, but it'll look cool even if it's fudged a bit. :)


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 Post subject: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:51 am 
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Modern-Day Warrior wrote:
I too started on a cubic transformation of Eitan's Star a while back. Haven't had any time recently to continue it, but I'd love to get it done sometime soon. The mechanism is definitely too shallow to get a perfect cube, but it'll look cool even if it's fudged a bit. :)

Oh wow.. that is scary *giggle*

How are you going about this? Milliput like stuff, or sheeting? It dazzles me, all those little pieces! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:05 am 
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Burgo wrote in Eitan's Nebula thread:
Burgo wrote:
E-Cubes Designer X wrote:
I am currently working on a cubic version of Eitan's Star..
Mods, can we please split this topic away? It's stepping on one of `the great TP reveals`. It forces all sorts of responses, including unpredicted things like, it has even forced MDW to respond in this thread (which he had no other option). Great work by the way MDW :D , but you deserve your own topic (and your own reveal).

I wrote there:
Konrad wrote:
First of all: Wonderful achievement Eitan!
What a dedication!
Good luck in California, too! :) (Little puzzle: How do I know? :lol: )

Second: This wonderful thread got somehow distracted by other posts.
I decided to split two new topics off:

E-Cube Designer X's claims

Modern-Day Warrior's contribution that he is working on a cubic version of Eitan's Star

@Burgo: I had decided to do this, already, when I read your post.

@ECDX: (I'm borrowing this nice abbreviation from1SAN3 :wink: ) You have started so many new topics, where you inform us about your intentions / work in progress.
Why did you feel compelled to hijack this thread for your announcement?

@all: I assure you that there are nicer things to do on Sunday mornings than shuffling around posts :wink:
As Burgo has said, Modern-Day Warrior had no other choice than to react to E-Cubes Designer X's claim.

Therefore, I have split off two topics.
One here, where a well recognized member shows his work in progress.

And one herewhere E-Cubes Designer X tells us (showing just words), that he is working on the same idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:00 am 
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I can't wait to see the progress on this!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:14 am 
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Since it's too shallow could you extend it out to make it cubic instead?


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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:42 pm 
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Kattenvriendin wrote:
Oh wow.. that is scary *giggle*

How are you going about this? Milliput like stuff, or sheeting? It dazzles me, all those little pieces! :D


Resin to fill the pieces, and sheeting and Milliput to extend them. There's definitely quite a lot of work ahead with all those little pieces!
garathnor wrote:
Since it's too shallow could you extend it out to make it cubic instead?


I'm both cutting down and extending. I wanted to cut down to the four closest midpoints around each "cube" face. If I can't, the extended pieces will block each other unless fudged a bit. I could try pillowing it, but I've never done that before. Now may be the time to try. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:13 am 
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Fantastic work!

A question here from someone who doesn't mod himself & only learnt today that a Radiolarian 3 is an Eitan's Star with the hidden edge on show:

If you are to cut down to a cubic shape, wouldn't the hidden edges become visible and become a Radio 3 cube? Or is it cut in a way that wont do that?

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:01 am 
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I don't think Eitan's Star can be cut down enough to expose more than the six middle pieces you see on the "cube" faces, not unless it's pillowed. But you're right, this will essentially be similar if not identical to the Radio Cube 3, solving wise. It's possible the other hidden edge pieces will remain hidden in the solved cubic state, but they'd still become exposed when scrambled.

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:11 pm 
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Bit of a bump, but I've finally got time to start working on this again. Will have more progress photos soon! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube(octahedron!)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:41 pm 
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Alright, so I'm finally admitting defeat. Sort of. I had a feeling the extensions for the cube shape would run into each other with the sheer amount of intersecting planes. I had hoped enough cutting down would solve that, but the mechanism's just too shallow. SO, instead I'm turning it into a cuboctahedron. :D

Wish I hadn't done all that work on the extensions. Lots of wasted milliput. Still have lots to do. Good thing I decided to reassemble it when I did. Still, I think it'll turn out pretty nifty. Also with this way I hope I can expose the other hidden edges.

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12 vertices
20 centers
60 (peripheral?) centers
30 hidden edges
60 outer edges
182 total pieces to modify. Uuuugh...

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:48 pm 
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Not all of my projects have succeeded :) Your discipline and attention to detail are still great to see, regardless of whether it winds up as you intended.

Looking good,

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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:09 am 
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Better suffer defeat insted of never having tried ...
(or something along that route)

I second Dave: It looks good.


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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:38 pm 
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Thanks to both of you! Figured if I can't have it one way I can at least make something else.

It's nearing completion. All the necessary pieces have been extended, so I'm just in the process of cutting back down and removing the unnecessary extensions that would have been the cube corners.


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 Post subject: Re: Eitan's Star as a Cube
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That looks amazing! I especially like how 8 of the faces line up with the new shape. (which I guess makes sense because an icosahedron is a snub octahedron(or tetrahedron, depending on how you look at it), and the cuboctahedron faces line up with that of an octahedron)

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