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 Post subject: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:18 am

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Hi I have had this idea for a while, but I have no idea how to create a mech for it besides some basic ideas.

So the outline of the puzzle is a 2x2x2 grid of the Metric puzzle (Cmetric?). The regular Cmetric Puzzle is a 2x2. But I want to add the third dimension to it.

So yea, a 2x2x2 puzzle, where each piece is rounded so that two corners turn/roll together on the same axis (around the edge).

I dont want a cage for this. I am thinking more of 8 balls (6 orientations each) with a 2x2x2 cut on each (like the rubiks 4x4x4 core). How to connect all of them really puzzles me. I have done multiple drawings on it, but it turns out I am not that smart!

What do you think? If you can help me out creating a mechanism for this I would be very delighted!

-Sigurd

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:11 pm

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So are you meaning a 2x2x2 + Helicopter Cube, but without the center pieces? If that's what it is, then a 2x2x2 + Helicopter Cube should do the trick. I had an idea a month or so ago about a 2x2x2 that can do Helicopter Cube turns. I hope that can be designed one day.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:28 pm

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nope. nothing like the helicopter.

I drew a picture to help you understand. Its hard to draw rounded cubies. But now you can see the movement

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:31 pm

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From what I know and see, magnets may be able to do the trick. Maybe some kind of elastic too, but a mechanism would be very hard. I'll ponder on this for a bit longer.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:38 pm

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Yea magents have struck my mind as well. At least I could try to solve this thing then..

but a mech would just be awesome!!

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:41 pm

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Mechanism thought of! Have 12 quater like circle rail parts on the inside as the mech (where the edges should be) and have rail gaps on the pieces. A designer could probably think of how to make the other bits function, but as a basis idea it does have potential.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:59 pm

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could you by any chance draw out your idea? I have a hard time visualizing what you are talking about

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:09 pm

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The purple is the piece rails:

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The only thing is working out how they attach to other centers after a turn.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:13 pm

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I think some sort of rail mechanism would be quite possible, and I can visualize one, however, it is rather hard to explain.
Although with my mech idea, there would be apertures for the rail mechanism outside the cubies, if you wanted a full 360 degree turn.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:23 pm

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how about the idea I had. a whole cage on the inside. with spinning rods (?) connecting every set.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:28 pm

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That could work, but you'd need magnets so that the next side can be turned, unless anyone else has any ideas on how to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:16 pm

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Wouldn't it help to take apart the Cmetric and see how it works

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:18 pm

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I know how it works. But I dont want an outside cage on my puzzle..

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:25 pm

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Doubleyou wrote:
I know how it works. But I dont want an outside cage on my puzzle..

Oh! so that's what you meant with the thing of the cage, hadn't get it till now.
Well, hope you get lucky and find a mech.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:38 pm

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If you are wanting to print this puzzle, I could (try to) create a 3d model.
All corners would be spheres and each corner would have 17 pieces for a total of 136. It then could be colored different ways to make a harder puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:03 am

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Hi Twisty Puzzles fans,

Here are the design sketches of two versions of Cube Twister, which I made July and August 2009. To my best knowledge, Nouri Khalifa originally came up with this idea. He made a crude but working prototype of his concepts. The sketches below are inspired by his prototype. I had forgotten about this design, but the TP thread reminded me. Some of you may recognize the mechanism of the PantaCube in the second version.

Enjoy!

Oskar
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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:07 am

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That looks very interesting Oskar. Hopefully you'll be able to print it shortly.

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 Post subject: Re: new puzzle idea! no idea of mechPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:41 am

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YES!!! Eureka! that last picture really says it all!! Thats really really clever oskar!
I just knew that there were a solution to this!

Could this concept be further improved/evolved for a better look?

How about having a smaller groove in each cubie?

right now, I am really satisfied! oh man...

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