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 Post subject: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:14 pm 
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Another new puzzle in the same way of the rhombic dodecaedron.
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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:40 am 
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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:26 am 
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That's a beaut. Nicely done. Is it the same size as the Skewb Diamond?

I really envy your ability to find enough time to dedicate to projects like this. I have so many projects on the back burner, it's depressing to even think of it.

Sandy


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:04 am 
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What type of mechanism is used on this puzzle? It looks great.


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 3:02 pm 
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Please stop posting nice, new puzzles. I get the urge to build them all, and I have only two hands.

So it seems this year, is the year of the new puzzles ideas!

I wish I could build them all....

Ton


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:14 pm 
Isn't this the same as Meffert's skewb octahedron?

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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:56 pm 
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Expect a few from me this year. I have some big numbers coming (I hope). Things are looking great on paper.


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 Post subject: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:36 am 
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This is a Junior Dogic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:40 am 
Nice!

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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
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Very sweet. nother nice creation. Why do I feel there are more coming?


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:18 pm 
awesome!!!! so cool!!! [ B^)


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:15 pm 
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Dodd wrote:
> What type of mechanism is used on this puzzle?
> It looks great.

It looks like it can be made using an extended 2x2 mechanism. Just take the principle of the 2x2x4 and extend it out on all of the faces. Sand down and fill the parts appropriately and voila.

I'll have to add it to the list of projects that I'll eventually think about getting to but are eternally on the back burner along with half a dozen other Time consuming hobbies.


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 Post subject: Re: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 12:31 am 
Only in that it is a tip turning polyhedron, you could say the same about the Latice cube or Pyraminx. I think of the Impossiball as a Junior Dogic. This is more like a Master Okki Jem.

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 Post subject: Re: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:25 am 
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i only mean that this is the exact puzzle i once proposed could be called the junior dogic. i guess it has a few possible names like the master oci as you suggested. a pyraminx definitely isnt a junior dogic because it doesnt work with the same principle.

the impossiball is like a simplified dogic, although it could be called a junior megaminx (so could alexander's star).

this puzzle is to a dogic as a 3x3x3 is to a megaminx. take the same principle and put it on a simpler polyhedron.

what do you think max? also, there was someone out there who was trying to come up with a methodical way to classify puzzles. sandy? carter? chris? was it any of you? any thoughts?

personally im just really glad to see this in real life!!


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 Post subject: Re: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:42 am 
I alwasy use the following rules:

Junior is 1 less order than standard
Master is 1 more
Professor is 2 more
Super is 3 more (not used very much!)

Order here is number of slices for a face turning puzzle and number of slices per tip on a tip turning one. Not order of symmetry.

Then you need some standard puzzles:

Face turning.

Pyraminx (tetrahedron), 3x3x3 Cube, Skewb Octahedron, Megaminx (dodecahedron) & no icosahedron

Tip turing.

Pyraminx (tet is self dual so its both tip & face turning), Dino cube, Magic Octahedron/Star Puzzler, no dodeca and the Dogic (icosahedron).

The you could call a 2x2x2 the Junior cube and the 6x6x6 the Super cube. A Junior Pyraminx would look like a Pyramorphix but would just be 4 trivial tips on an octahedron (not interesting!), we've seen a Master Pyraminx. The Lattice cube would be a Master Dino. This Lolo octahedron would be a Master Star Puzzler or a Professor Okki. The impossiball would be a Junior Dogic.

I know some people use junior/master to mean different turning mech eg Master Pyraminx = edge turning pyraminx. I don't get this, Junior, Master, Professor suggest increase in size to me, not different mechs.

Obviously thing aren't as simple as this when you get away from the platonic solids and corresponding kernals!

Max


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 Post subject: Re: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 2:25 am 
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Wasn't me. I'm not that smart... or anal.. or whatever!

It's always been my opinion that trying to fit all these strange shapes into standard shaped holes is just never going to work very well. There always seem to be an exception... thus the imperfect category system at TwistyPuzzles.com.

Sandy


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 Post subject: Re: JUNIOR DOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:42 am 
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i definitely agree. i believe the impossiball is a junior dogic in the sense that a 2x2x2 cube is a junior 3x3x3. but could also be thought of as a junior dogic in the sense that a 3x3x3 cube is a junior megaminx. maybe a better name would be dogic octahedron? although then there are the skewb diamond which is the same mechanism with a different shape over the top...


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 Post subject: Re: lolo's octaedron
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:14 pm 
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Laurent, does this puzzle ALSO turn like a Skewb Diamond?


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