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 Post subject: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:16 pm 
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Hi everyone! As you may know, I posted an image in the hints and secrets thread, and it may have stumped some of you.

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The image was the core of the Crazy Dino Cube, which has now been printed and assembled.

There are 4 unique parts:
Core-1
Edges-12
Centers-8 divided into 3 parts for 24 total
"Wings"- 24

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And as I had mentioned before about the "predecessor's core", here is the core which has been somehow painted black. Conveniently, the areas that are black (besides the bleeding) are parts that are shown on the exterior.
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For museum info that I have now, the puzzle is 57mm for edge length. Weight and other things aren't known yet.

A video for your convenience has been made, but the audio is laggy, video is choppy in some parts, and i must apologize for my messy room and possibly scary expression. But I have made the video to show turning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJJiP5eV7Y&feature=youtu.be

I must point out that the wings aren't held in too well, but they do not fall out. The other problem is the 24 centers, which move too much, and block other piece from moving. Otherwise turning is good, and it is a little sensitive to alignment even if the split centers are not blocking the turn.

Stickers *may* come soon, thus I have put this into the Puzzle Building and Modding section of TP

Have a nice time everyone!

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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But seriously, I love this puzzle. Great design. Very simple and clean.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:24 am 
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Nice! Are the circles locked in position like a circle cube?

Great looking puzzle :)

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:37 am 
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martywolfman wrote:
Nice! Are the circles locked in position like a circle cube?
. To answer this, yes they are, and although they aren't the most stable, it really does stay. Only real problem here is the wiggling of the wings.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Neat design. Congratulations on going from concept to working puzzle!

The turning looks similar to the Dogic where you have to get everything nicely aligned or stuff will catch. This looks like the sort of design that could benefit from magnets for stabilization. Put magnets on the side of the edges and the on each circle tip at it should keep the tips from sagging and keep everything much more rigid and aligned.

Fortunately a Dino cube solve is so short even poor turning is acceptable for solve.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:02 am 
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Shame about those thin wing pieces. Any ideas yet how it could be improved other than magnets?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Brandon Enright wrote:
This looks like the sort of design that could benefit from magnets for stabilization. Put magnets on the side of the edges and the on each circle tip at it should keep the tips from sagging keep everything much more rigid and aligned

The wings that form the circle tips can be improved, that is for sure. But the wings aren't the reason for being loose. the underlying centers that actually rotate are the problem, since they don't fit exactly correct, thus bulging out of their place which is what gives the wings their looseness and imperfect turning.

Magnets could help a little wobbling, but it wouldn't help the inner alignment.

I'll share more once I'm back from school today.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Wow! That's cool! Didn't I see a thread about the idea of this puzzle a while back?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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BelcherBoy2000 wrote:
Wow! That's cool! Didn't I see a thread about the idea of this puzzle a while back?

It has already been done, but not finished. The first creator decided to not finish the puzzles (he did not sticker it), so it was not considered done. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Drake wrote:
BelcherBoy2000 wrote:
Wow! That's cool! Didn't I see a thread about the idea of this puzzle a while back?

It has already been done, but not finished. The first creator decided to not finish the puzzles (he did not sticker it), so it was not considered done. Correct me if I'm wrong.


To answer this, yes, it was made before, however, that one functioned like a mosaic cube with second layer turns only. That wasn't truly a "Crazy/Circle Dino Cube". It was more of a Slice-only if you will. And that one was also designed by me. So yes, you are correct.

The cuts were deeper in the previous one, and are now shallower, and have attributes of a normal crazy/circle puzzle where all circles are stationary.

Original thread: http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22975

**For Andreas mostly**
So, since this is really a crazy/circle dino cube, should that mean the museum entry for the previous one be changed? And if so, what is it going to be classified as, since it has the same name?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Actually I l always like to have simple & clean puzzle. Not too complicated. This is a great design!


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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:03 am 
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NXTgen wrote:
since this is really a crazy/circle dino cube
If you have a way to temporarily bandage some Inner Circle pieces to Outer Circle pieces.. Looks possible to me :) . Unfortunately, at the moment it's only a mere Circle Dino Cube.. Challenge accepted?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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NXTgen wrote:
**For Andreas mostly**
So, since this is really a crazy/circle dino cube, should that mean the museum entry for the previous one be changed? And if so, what is it going to be classified as, since it has the same name?

I see two solutions for this:
1. I enter it under the name "Crazy Dino Cube" which is not given yet in the museum.
2. I ignore it because it is unstickered.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
NXTgen wrote:
**For Andreas mostly**
So, since this is really a crazy/circle dino cube, should that mean the museum entry for the previous one be changed? And if so, what is it going to be classified as, since it has the same name?

I see two solutions for this:
1. I enter it under the name "Crazy Dino Cube" which is not given yet in the museum.
2. I ignore it because it is unstickered.

Andreas


For the first I see no problem with that. For the second, stickers will come eventually (I promise, but no set date for when) and that should solve the second problem.

I'm working on some ways to make this more stable, but that will be for later. My main priority is stickers.

Thanks everyone for the kind words and comments! I really appreciate it! (I'm a little confused as to why nobody has really commented on the core next the the puzzle. that core is heavy and 1mm thick. it bounces a little if dropped from a small distance :lol: )

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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The puzzle is now stickered! I will post pictures soon, and will make them much higher quality.

My art teacher was kind enough to volunteer himself to make the stickers from the .dxf file I provided. They were printed on a material that is highly durable, and cut. It is some sort of material that doesn't get bubbles underneath!

Colours chosen: Black, Yellow, Red, Orange, Green, and Blue using the original sticker placement Black/White-Blue, Yellow-Green, and Red-Orange

The puzzle is not dyed, and I will be leaving it white. This turned out quite nice in the end!

And for future reference, should I post a new topic under "New Puzzles", or update this one?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Just post a new topic in the New Puzzles forum and have the same name except Finished! at the end.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:35 pm 
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Now I feel bad that I was stumped! This is really cool. It sounds like you're working on a version 2?

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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JasonSmith wrote:
Now I feel bad that I was stumped! This is really cool. It sounds like you're working on a version 2?

Maybe.... Only 2 unique parts need to be fixed. May not be soon, but still.

I have yet to set up the camera and area to take photos of the completed puzzle.

And in one of my previous posts, I mentioned my teacher cutting the stickers. The material is really nice. The back of the material says "Orajet Rapid Air, by Oracle" It can be printed like a colour printer, and cut. It looks like duct tape on the back, only more organized. It is really nice actually, to the point where I was surprised.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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I really just got stumped by this puzzle when i played it a week ago. I'm looking for some hints from that time but finally found your video.


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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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This reminds me of a master Dino cube minus moving the corner pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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Is the puzzle finished? I haven't seen any posts on it and I'm anxious to see it finished/turning

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 Post subject: Re: Crazy Dino Cube
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TheCubingKyle wrote:
Is the puzzle finished? I haven't seen any posts on it and I'm anxious to see it finished/turning


Yes, it is finished, but I am a bit busy to actually set up a good place and take a few nice quality pictures. I know some are anxious, but I don't want it to come out all grainy and discoloured. I just haven't gotten the time yet. I can get to it real soon, but not just yet.

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