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 Post subject: Tricks of the Fridrich Method
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:35 am 
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Lots of Petrus users learn different tricks for block building. I've heard that there are some tricks for Fridrich method, such as putting one C/E pair in place while setting up the next one; the only time i do this is by accident, lol.

Does anyone know how to do these kinds of things? Also, are there any more tricks i could learn for the Fridrich method?

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Cross (avg 8 turns, i think)
F2L
1 or 2 look OLL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:50 am 
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There's one trick that I use is for inserting the last CE pair.

If I get to a position where the pair is matched up and just needs to be dropped into its slot, I take a look and see which edges are flipped.

Depending on that, I either do R' F R F' or U R U' R' to get the most edges flipped correctly for the LL.

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Sweet. Any more tricks that i should know? i think i need to work a lot on getting my F2L decently, it's my slowest part of the solve.

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thats all that i know of if you know OLL and PLL just keep practicing i guess!

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Learn first 2 cases of ZBF2L (i can say that forever). And make very difficult cases very easy cases by studying the easiest possible algorithm for it. learn to know where your pieces will end up when you are finished placing a CE pair so you can plan ahead.Your hands should not be able to keep up with your brain or you are going too slow.


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Something I sometimes use,
(with cross on bottom)
R2 U2 R2 U2 R2

I'll let you work out how and why.

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Oo, oo I know that, I do that when I'm board of doing the 6 side cross.
N00B question: what does ZBF2L stand for?

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Myke wrote:
N00B question: what does ZBF2L stand for?

Zborowski-Bruchem First Two Layers


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Thanks. :) wow that alot of algs.

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Only 800 odd :P

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Not as bad as ZBLL- isn't that like 1022 algs? or is it 1012? i think it's 1022...

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How would somebody memorize all those algs? (1022 or 1012 it is still alot :shock: )

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Speedy McFastfast wrote:
Not as bad as ZBLL- isn't that like 1022 algs? or is it 1012? i think it's 1022...


I think if I got to 1012, and it ended up being 1022, I wouldn't mind so much about just having ten more...

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Speedy McFastfast wrote:
Not as bad as ZBLL- isn't that like 1022 algs? or is it 1012? i think it's 1022...
It's 493 IIRC.


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I count only 368 F2L algs (with inversion).

But I could never spend the time to actually go memorize 800 algorithms... or even 200. I know that I could memorize them, but just the amount of time to spend is unimaginable... like doing a 100x100x100 cube.

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Sit down and actually think about all the algs you have learned over time tho. I learned an intuitive F2L, some OLL's, and all the PLLs. I think i'm up to like 100 algs right now, but it really doesn't seem like that many.

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I am over a 100 for LL. Using OLL and PLL only. and i only have 7 OLL patterns in petrus.I am sure johannes is probably close if not more then that.


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but kyle, don't you have that many algs because you learned every case from every angle? 7 OLL's with 4 different angles each is 28 OLL's right there.

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My OLL is close to the amount of fridrich OLL.


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Past cases that you have learned, i'm guessing?

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