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What magic do you have
Rubiks orange/yello 36%  36%  [ 8 ]
Old School black/rainbow 23%  23%  [ 5 ]
Simpsons 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Custom 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
A combination of the above. 23%  23%  [ 5 ]
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 Post subject: Speedsolving Rubiks Magic help.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:57 am 
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Alright so I figured out the beginners method for magic on my own. I soon found this video for an advanced, but I couldnt get the grasp of it. I got to the "Do two of the 6-flips..." and then i didnt understand his gripping after that.

Really this topic is asking which one will turn out faster. As of right now I have a Simpsons Magic, and I'd like to know the fastest method for solving it.

EDIT: I shall post two videos tomorrow, asking which one is more quick in the long run. I know Bouchard is the fastest, but I cant understand his, but I think i do something very similer if not the same.

All in all this topics reserved for otmorrow. Thank you for your concern though. It will be updated then.


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Go to Jaap's puzzle page rubik's magic. I use solution 2.
Here is how I learned how to do it ( not english but you can learn it without
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 Post subject: Re: Speedsolving Rubiks Magic help.
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Cubeaddict wrote:
I know Bouchard is the fastest
Not true. Here and here.


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Does Matyas Kuti ever compeat in oficial compititions? I think he really
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Myke wrote:
Does Matyas Kuti ever compeat in oficial compititions? I think he really
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He went to Euro '06, and is going to the Belgian Open, want me to say hi to him for you? :P

As for me, I use a custom made magic, made from a Studio Master, with Lucas Garron's inserts.
I only have 15 strings in mine, one snapped and I left it removed as it is faster.

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Ok, say hi to him for me. The bigest problem I have with the magic is it's
hard to pick up quickly. Is this a problem for anybody else?

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what surface are you on?

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 Post subject: Too slow
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I sometimes have a problem wiht this, and since Pembo has recently informed me taht I suck, it might just contribute to the suck-age... sometimes do it on anything from a desk to a vinyl-esque floor to carpet, but i don't notice too significant of a change...

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The stack-mat mat. When the Magic is on there it dosn't have very much
friction so it slips and slides.

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I used to have a lot of problems with picking up the Magic as well... the best advice I can give is that, since the stackmat is sort of springy, you can do a motion that's sort of like scooping under the Magic. You also want to form your fingers into whatever shape you'll be using for your first movement.

You can always watch some strangepuzzle videos if you want to see how various people pick it up. Try to get the ones that are higher quality, and remember that you don't need to pick the fastest ones. You might be able to see the picking-up part on my 1.04 video, since the camera was facing me during the solve.

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Horay! I practised on the stackmat for about 5 min and got a best time of
2.46 sec. :D

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The problem I have is doing the 6 flip transformation to make it into the 'heart shape'. I can do the first 3/4 flips with ease, but the last 2/3 sometime get stuck, hence the fact I only have 1 string on those tiles.

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shouldn't it being improperly connected make it easier to transform not harder? I can't honestly say that that makes much sense to me...?!?!?

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I was saying that because I find the last two flips harder, I have removed a string to make it easier to flip.

sorry for confusion.

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You know, it's really too bad that Matyas Kuti stops the timer illegally. I can get .80 and .81 also if I stop with my palms and not my finger tips. Legally starting and stopping, I have managed .85 as my fastest.

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lol i can get liek 3 and a half seconds! w00t... I think taht is the first time i have read your profile Quinn... thats a pretty cool quote... I'm assuming you didn't write that yourself did you?

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Quinn Lewis wrote:
You know, it's really too bad that Matyas Kuti stops the timer illegally. I can get .80 and .81 also if I stop with my palms and not my finger tips. Legally starting and stopping, I have managed .85 as my fastest.

The WCA says:
The timer must be stopped using both hands, with both hands flat and palms down. Penalty: 2 seconds.

I thought it didn't matter what part you used to stop it, just starting.

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thats a shame... a 2 second penalty... thats harsh!

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I got a 2.21 PB now. I'm now mostly workin on the 5x5 and 3x3.

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I think remember having the timer-stopping debate at some point - from what I remember, it's legal to use your palms to stop the timer, as long as you start with your finger tips and don't touch the Magic after the timer stops.

Whoa, Quinn... 0.85... that's insanely fast. Are you still practicing the Magic? Have you considered trying for the official Magic single solve record? It's 1.07 at the moment, which really isn't good at all. I'd try to beat it but I think Mátyás is going to the Belgian Open (where he has a chance of getting a sub-1 avg), so it will be pointless.

Er... could you please take a look at one of my videos and tell me if there's a problem I need to fix or if I just need more practice? I have a 1.04 up on strangepuzzle, although I use a slightly faster method now (I keep the puzzle very close to the mat), and my best time is 0.98.

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What nationality is Matyas Kuti?

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Matyas is Hungarian.

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:cry: my rubik's magic strings broke and cube smith is out of stock on the
set of 6 strings. is there any other place I can get them?

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Not really. Cubesmith's always been out of stock on the set, so you have to order them 2 at a time. The only alternative I can think of would be to buy Magics and take them apart.

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Just an update:
I have now changed my stringing pattern:
If you number the tiles from 1-8 clockwise from the top left square, I string like this:
6-7-8 (2 pairs)
8-1-2 (2 pairs)
2-3-4 (2 pairs)
4-5-6 (1 pair)

Which makes a grand total of 14 strings, and a sub 1.7 average!

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Sorry for double post but another update.

I have further changed my stringing pattern.

Where before I had only one pair of strings on the last three tiles, I now have 3. Instead of the usually, front - back - front - back stringing, I have front - front - back on these three tiles, and now a sub 1.5 average and the UK Record :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5cLSYYD-KRY

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Pembo wrote:
6-7-8 (2 pairs)
8-1-2 (2 pairs)
2-3-4 (2 pairs)
4-5-6 (1 pair)

Ooh - I'll have to try that!

Does anyone know how to string one pair on each successive set of three tiles? (1-2-3, 2-3-4, 3-4-5, etc.) I tried it, but I coudn't get hinges to line up. I would expect that to make a lot of difference in smoothness and string-breaking tendency...

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Ask Pentazis.

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wait... doesn't changing around the configuration of the strings make your magic illegal to use in competition? I really don't know anything about magics though, so this is just random thoughts popping in my head :)

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wait... doesn't changing around the configuration of the strings make your magic illegal to use in competition? I really don't know anything about magics though, so this is just random thoughts popping in my head :)

I don't think it does.

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Nah, because usually the puzzles still behaves the same.
Think of and Easty and a Rubik's 4x4, same puzzle, different mech.

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Err, when you wire your magic differently it is "making possible new moves" which is not approved by WCA regulations BUT, you can string your magic 'backwars' if you like. This will result in other moves but in such a way it is allowed cause in the old days magics were produced in 2 ways, with 'normal' string or with the strings 'backwards'. Personaly I've got my magic wired normaly but my master magic is wired 'backwards'. Result on my master magic is that the normal solution is possible only you start and end upside down AND the actual moves have to be done mirrored now.

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Err, when you wire your magic differently it is "making possible new moves" which is not approved by WCA regulations...


Yeah, that is what i was talking about. Making new moves is prohibited, therefore you shouldn't be able to use your magic in comps, right?

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read the rest of what i said, btw I already competed with both of my magics in competition...

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Erik wrote:
read the rest of what i said, btw I already competed with both of my magics in competition...


from what you are saying, there are two legal positions to magics... did i read that right?

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On the Master Magic, are you using the same solution as the sub-2 guys? I have my Master Magic strung backwards too, but I haven't really gotten that fast at their method yet.

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I use indeed the same solution. Milan Baticz learned me. Btw, Mate Horvath is using something different than the others.

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Horvath's is the same, he just does it in a different order ;)


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I voted "rubik's yellow/orange", but in reality...it broke a long time ago.


I really loved that thing. I'm going to get a new one someday.

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Know whats bad, I was just about to answer this topic. And vote. I thought.. oh! I have those magics except for the rubiks orange!
And then i went to quote the topic starters name, and it was me..


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wow... i thought I was slow sometimes...

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