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Where is your cross?
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 Post subject: Wheres Your Cross?Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:20 pm

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Hey this question is only for fridrich solvers like me... which, coincidentally is like everyone... well, I apologize in advance if this has already been posted, but I was thinking about it and I know lots of people wwho solve it differently than me and I wsa just wondering what the most popular way is...

i solve with my white cross on the bottom

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:33 pm

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Location: RPI, Troy NY, USA
You didn't include front or back, though I doubt it really matters.

I would "vote" in that poll but none of them are really for me. I solve white on all faces. No that doesn't make sense on its own, but while solving the cross, I kind of rotate the cube everywhere. Same thing for getting the rest of F2L. I mostly have the white on top while solving F2L, but I'm trying to get it to always be on the bottom, so I do a funky rotating thing where the white is always changing sides. ...If that makes sense...

Also, you've been going on quite the post rampage today havent you Wezul? hah, I've just been sitting on the forums, bored, and I've noticed new posts by you every couple of minutes.

As for my opinion, I would have to say solving on the bottom seems best, only because I know pretty much every speedcuber does it, and most of them have better times than me... though that could be due to the fact that I only know 3 PLL's once I have the cross and 2 OLL's... oh yeah, and dont know any F2L algs other than the baisc D F D' F' D' R' D R or D' R' D R D F D' F'

Yeah... maybe there are a few more factors in there I could improve on rather than which face to solve on, hah.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:47 pm

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i do cross on top. i solve yellow first and end on white. my F2L solve is cross on left, so i have to change the cross from top to left when i am done with cross. hope this helps you.

most people solve white first and cross bottom for F2L, but i dont know where they solve the cross.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:58 pm

Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm
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Bottom.

I was like "yes!!" cause I thought you posted the poll that I was thinking of posting, but it wasn't the same. My idea was finding which color everyone uses for the cross, with the last option being "any" (if you are able to have 7 options).

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:10 pm

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I solve the cross on the left and do F2L with cross on left.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:06 pm

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Where's the Back Cross and Front Cross... Can't forgot those guys too

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:12 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:28 pm
Location: CA, USA
I do any color on the bottom. The color I chose is the one that seems the
closest to the cross. Is it better to do this or to have a spasific color to start
with?

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:01 am

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Location: Dallas, Texas
Myke wrote:
I do any color on the bottom. The color I chose is the one that seems the
closest to the cross. Is it better to do this or to have a spasific color to start
with?

If you can solve the same with any color, than it is definitely better to do that!

It'll usually guarantee the fastest cross each time. The only reason, I think, that someone wouldn't do it, is if they couldn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Wheres Your Cross?Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:54 am

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FireWezul wrote:
Hey this question is only for fredrich solvers

I don't know that method. I use Fridrich. And also where I hold the cross differs between solving cross itself and solving rest of F2L.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:30 am

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
I solve it on L. Doing so allows me to use R and U triggers to place edges and corners very fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Wheres Your Cross?Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:06 am

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Stefan wrote:
I don't know that method. I use Fridrich.

Stefan, I think it is an endless quest.
For years to come Fridrich will be misspelled.

To answer the question:
If I use Fridrich, which I rarely do, I have the cross on bottom.

Q

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 Post subject: Re: Wheres Your Cross?Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:46 pm

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Q wrote:
Stefan wrote:
I don't know that method. I use Fridrich.

Stefan, I think it is an endless quest.
For years to come Fridrich will be misspelled.

It's much easier to spell CFOP! Probably more proper too.

I voted bottom, which I use during F2L but I sometimes build my cross up or on the side depending on the best flow I can think of. I assumed (uhoh) from Fire Weasel's (:lol:) first post that he was asking about where you put the cross after it's built.

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 Post subject: crossPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:07 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:17 am
I *don't* use the Friedrice method.

In my method the cross is the fourth step and I mostly do it on the bottom leaving me free to see the Last Level.

DJ

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:35 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm
Location: Ohio
lol shut up Stefan... i just spelled FRIDRICH wrong by accident lol...

Yes Garett...I was on a rampage yesterday kas i had no homework :p!

Thx for all the feedback guys.... keep it coming!

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:16 pm

Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:38 pm
Location: Southern California
GarrettDickerson wrote:
I would "vote" in that poll but none of them are really for me. I solve white on all faces. No that doesn't make sense on its own, but while solving the cross, I kind of rotate the cube everywhere. Same thing for getting the rest of F2L. I mostly have the white on top while solving F2L, but I'm trying to get it to always be on the bottom, so I do a funky rotating thing where the white is always changing sides. ...If that makes sense...

As for my opinion, I would have to say solving on the bottom seems best, only because I know pretty much every speedcuber does it, and most of them have better times than me... though that could be due to the fact that I only know 3 PLL's once I have the cross and 2 OLL's... oh yeah, and dont know any F2L algs other than the baisc D F D' F' D' R' D R or D' R' D R D F D' F'

You should really, really, really get out of the habit of solving F2L with cross on top. You have no look ahead ability, and cannot see what is happening to the pair that you're working on. Trust me, it is worth it to switch. Either do cross on the left (or right if your left handed), or cross on the bottom. It won't be that hard to switch, just keep solving it the new way until you get comfortable.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:13 pm

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:55 pm
Add the option "No Cross".

Not everyone uses Fridrich.

I'm sure my request isn't any more crazy than Stefan's need for others to make perfect posts.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:28 pm

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Daniel W: I'm attempting that, hopefully my slow transition into solving on the bottom will work rather than just going for it and getting used to it along the way. But yeah, for now, I'm ahppy with my times, I have been averaging in the mid-20's with my best times just below 20 (havent updated the signature not sure the exact times on it)

Athefre: Read the first sentence written in this thread "This question is only for fridrich solvers like me..." Yes, I'm sure you would like to add your voice in the poll, but if you don't use the method he is specifically asking for... why bother?

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:46 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:28 pm
Location: CA, USA
Could you modify the poll and make it so there is the option of having no
cross?

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:51 am

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GarrettDickerson wrote:
Daniel W: I'm attempting that, hopefully my slow transition into solving on the bottom will work rather than just going for it and getting used to it along the way. But yeah, for now, I'm ahppy with my times, I have been averaging in the mid-20's with my best times just below 20 (havent updated the signature not sure the exact times on it)

Wow, that is impressive. You've gotten sub-20 times while solving F2L with cross on top. That's really good. How long have you been speedcubing? How many OLL and PLL algs do you know?

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:50 am

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Daniel W wrote:
GarrettDickerson wrote:
Daniel W: I'm attempting that, hopefully my slow transition into solving on the bottom will work rather than just going for it and getting used to it along the way. But yeah, for now, I'm ahppy with my times, I have been averaging in the mid-20's with my best times just below 20 (havent updated the signature not sure the exact times on it)

Wow, that is impressive. You've gotten sub-20 times while solving F2L with cross on top. That's really good. How long have you been speedcubing? How many OLL and PLL algs do you know?

I think I put them up in my earlier post in this thread, but I guess i'll say it again...

I know 3 OLL's after getting the cross, actually 5, but 2 of them solve for the cross on the bottom, but also orient the entire last layer in some cases, and I know 4 PLL alg's, and I just realized I said it wrong in the top, my mistake... The 4 PLL's I know are 3 corners clockwise/counter-clockwise, and 3 edges clockwise/counterclockwise.

I've had a cube in my hands since March '06 I think it was, but I wasnt able to teach myself how to solve it until July '06, something like that...

Within a few months I was able to cut 1 minute 30 off my time because me and a friend competed against each other to see who could get the better time, once one of us beat the other, it was a challenge to get lower. I recommend that to anyone who wants to get better times faster, hah.

I could probably get sub-20 times a lot easier if I knew more OLL and PLL, but I'm lazy at the moment, and my friend hasnt beaten my time, so I dont have that extra push to do better at the moment. Plus, I'm working on sub-2 for my megaminx (which still clicks into place)

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:52 pm

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:55 pm
Man I'm stupid.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:04 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm
Location: Ohio
dude didn't i say the question was only for fridrich solvers?

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