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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:50 am 
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I'm having trouble with Macky's 9th PLL.
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R'UR'U'-B'DB'D'-B2R'B'RBR

It doesn't work. I'm going to look more into it and see if I can fix my own problem. In the mean time if anyone wants to help or give a better alternative, feel free. Thanks.

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From his applet, I've pretty much translated it to:

R'UR'U'yR'DR'D'RLwz'R'U'RUR

But it still isn't working for me.

Thing is, when I follow the applet with my cube, I'll get it.

What am I doing wrong?

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Clayne,

It works for me, check your targeting or your -'s maybe?

This is the one I use, it looks long but its really just juggling 2 ce pairs around the LL and is easy to follow.

I target it differently, with a z(or a U) would target this alg from Macky's image

L' U R U' L U L' U R' U' L U2 R U2 R'

good luck man, PLL is great! (well N's and E's aren't so good) :lol:

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Wow Mike, thanks. I think I might just go with that one, because it's working easily.

Thanks.

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Try triggering it like this
(R' U R' d') x2 (R' U R' U' R2) x' (U' R' U R U)

If you do it like this, the first two triggers are almost exactly the same, the right hand does almost all the work (no switching hands), and the hand positions for the cube rotations are set up by the preceding triggers.

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I've watched a video with Macky doing that alg, I believe he uses a cube flip after the initial R'UR'U', so I do it as:

(R' U R' U') x2 y’ (R’ U R’ U’) (Lw R) U’ (R’ U) (R U)


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Thanks! I'll try them both and see which one ends up easier/faster. So far they both work.

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p.s. Thanks for the 3rd as well. I will take all of these into considering. You've been a great help.

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27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69


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verymagicalguy wrote:
I've watched a video with Macky doing that alg, I believe he uses a cube flip after the initial R'UR'U', so I do it as:

(R' U R' U') x2 y’ (R’ U R’ U’) (Lw R) U’ (R’ U) (R U)


That's what I do and it really helps. I found it originally at Dan's Cubestation. He has many applets. Check them out.

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Check out Bob Burton's PLL page, his algorithms are really good, and he has slow videos to show you how to properly execute the algorithm. His entire site is very helpful: http://www.cubewhiz.com

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Yeah... I've seen Bob Burton's site and it is cool... It helped me!

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idahospeedcubers.com is a good website for pll algs as well


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neeeaaaoooww wrote:
idahospeedcubers.com is a good website for pll algs as well

Sure thats the right URL? It doesn't seem to work, but it could be down for a bit.

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that wasn't actually supposed to be a URL, sorry about that.
thats the website i used but it doesn't seem to be working at the moment


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I think you meant:

http://www.idahocubers.com

I'm glad someone has gotten some use out of those PLL vids.. I will be updating them soon. Well, it's on the list of things to do anyway.

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yeah lol, :oops:


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Hey frank, what 4x4x4 method are you currently using and what type of cube?I am working with an eastsheen and doing 6 pair method, but i can't seem to break 1:30 average, I mainly hit low 1:20's until i start hitting OLL+PLL parities, or an impossible 6 pair chain.You should put something about 4x4x4-5x5x5 on your site for people who know what they are doing but suck anyways like me.


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I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...

Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.

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27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69


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Clayne H. wrote:
I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...

Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.


Clayne,

G's are easy, don't get discouraged. To recognize them, just look for 2 solved corners and seperately a corner and edge matched up. The c/e will either be adjacent to the solved corners or opposite. This is how to recognize which way to go.

now for algs, If you learn just 1 with your most confident hand, and get it down, you can translate it to the mirror image alg in your other hand pretty easily. Then take the same alg you started with and learn the moves in reverse, and translate it to the other hand mirror image style.

I love learning algs that have mirrors because it's like learning 2 at the same time.

good luck!

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Nice! Thanks Mike.

I'm actually learning Shotaro's algs. And I think my finger tricks are way slow, so when I learn all four variations, I'm going to make a video and ask you guys how I may be able to improve my finger tricks.

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That's how I reconze the G perm too :) . (though I don't know the alg I
practice reonising the PLL algs)

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Clayne H. wrote:
I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...

Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.


The easiest way to recognize the G permutes is to solve the corner-edge pair and then place the two corners that have the same color on the face that they are sharing on the left side of your cube (it doesn't have to be the left side, depends on which algorithms you have learned). You can then tell which permutation you have by the location of the corner-edge pair. :wink:

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Daniel W wrote:
Clayne H. wrote:
I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...

Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.


The easiest way to recognize the G permutes is to solve the corner-edge pair and then place the two corners that have the same color on the face that they are sharing on the left side of your cube (it doesn't have to be the left side, depends on which algorithms you have learned). You can then tell which permutation you have by the location of the corner-edge pair. :wink:


Ah yeah, I already solve the corner/edge. Mainly it's remembering which alg goes to which and how to distinguish the specific cases. Mostly, I've solved the c/e, than hold the cube so that the 3-edges are vertical (D or backwards D shape), then from there it's slightly easier to remember...

But I think Mike's method will work better than mine :?

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If the 2 group of cubies is on the right it is a mirror of a G perm and if the
FL corner goes to BL it is an inverse G perm. Just ignore the edges and if
the edges are in the right place it is a A perm. That's how I do it.

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