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Clayne H.
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Post subject: PLL alg problem Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:50 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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I'm having trouble with Macky's 9th PLL.
R'UR'U'-B'DB'D'-B2R'B'RBR
It doesn't work. I'm going to look more into it and see if I can fix my own problem. In the mean time if anyone wants to help or give a better alternative, feel free. Thanks.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:16 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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From his applet, I've pretty much translated it to:
R'UR'U'yR'DR'D'RLwz'R'U'RUR
But it still isn't working for me.
Thing is, when I follow the applet with my cube, I'll get it.
What am I doing wrong?
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:18 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Clayne,
It works for me, check your targeting or your -'s maybe?
This is the one I use, it looks long but its really just juggling 2 ce pairs around the LL and is easy to follow.
I target it differently, with a z(or a U) would target this alg from Macky's image
L' U R U' L U L' U R' U' L U2 R U2 R'
good luck man, PLL is great! (well N's and E's aren't so good) 
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:27 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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Wow Mike, thanks. I think I might just go with that one, because it's working easily.
Thanks.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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TBTTyler
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:30 am |
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Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm Location: Los Angeles
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Try triggering it like this
(R' U R' d') x2 (R' U R' U' R2) x' (U' R' U R U)
If you do it like this, the first two triggers are almost exactly the same, the right hand does almost all the work (no switching hands), and the hand positions for the cube rotations are set up by the preceding triggers.
TBTTyler
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verymagicalguy
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:36 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:11 am
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I've watched a video with Macky doing that alg, I believe he uses a cube flip after the initial R'UR'U', so I do it as:
(R' U R' U') x2 y’ (R’ U R’ U’) (Lw R) U’ (R’ U) (R U)
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:38 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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Thanks! I'll try them both and see which one ends up easier/faster. So far they both work.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:41 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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p.s. Thanks for the 3rd as well. I will take all of these into considering. You've been a great help.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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Caleb
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:27 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm Location: So. California
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verymagicalguy wrote: I've watched a video with Macky doing that alg, I believe he uses a cube flip after the initial R'UR'U', so I do it as:
(R' U R' U') x2 y’ (R’ U R’ U’) (Lw R) U’ (R’ U) (R U)
That's what I do and it really helps. I found it originally at Dan's Cubestation. He has many applets. Check them out.
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Daniel W
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:19 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:38 pm Location: Southern California
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Check out Bob Burton's PLL page, his algorithms are really good, and he has slow videos to show you how to properly execute the algorithm. His entire site is very helpful: http://www.cubewhiz.com
_________________ Started Speedcubing September 2006
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FireWezul
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:42 am |
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Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm Location: Ohio
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Yeah... I've seen Bob Burton's site and it is cool... It helped me!
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neeeaaaoooww
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:04 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm Location: Scotland
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idahospeedcubers.com is a good website for pll algs as well
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joey
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:57 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:02 pm
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neeeaaaoooww wrote: idahospeedcubers.com is a good website for pll algs as well
Sure thats the right URL? It doesn't seem to work, but it could be down for a bit.
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neeeaaaoooww
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:04 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm Location: Scotland
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that wasn't actually supposed to be a URL, sorry about that.
thats the website i used but it doesn't seem to be working at the moment
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Kal El
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:31 pm |
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Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:55 pm Location: Boise, ID
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I think you meant:
http://www.idahocubers.com
I'm glad someone has gotten some use out of those PLL vids.. I will be updating them soon. Well, it's on the list of things to do anyway.
Frank
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neeeaaaoooww
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:33 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm Location: Scotland
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yeah lol, 
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Kyle Allaire
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:53 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm Location: FL
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Hey frank, what 4x4x4 method are you currently using and what type of cube?I am working with an eastsheen and doing 6 pair method, but i can't seem to break 1:30 average, I mainly hit low 1:20's until i start hitting OLL+PLL parities, or an impossible 6 pair chain.You should put something about 4x4x4-5x5x5 on your site for people who know what they are doing but suck anyways like me.
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:39 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...
Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:08 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Clayne H. wrote: I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...
Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.
Clayne,
G's are easy, don't get discouraged. To recognize them, just look for 2 solved corners and seperately a corner and edge matched up. The c/e will either be adjacent to the solved corners or opposite. This is how to recognize which way to go.
now for algs, If you learn just 1 with your most confident hand, and get it down, you can translate it to the mirror image alg in your other hand pretty easily. Then take the same alg you started with and learn the moves in reverse, and translate it to the other hand mirror image style.
I love learning algs that have mirrors because it's like learning 2 at the same time.
good luck!
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:06 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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Nice! Thanks Mike.
I'm actually learning Shotaro's algs. And I think my finger tricks are way slow, so when I learn all four variations, I'm going to make a video and ask you guys how I may be able to improve my finger tricks.
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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Myke
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:03 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:28 pm Location: somewhere in the universe
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That's how I reconze the G perm too  . (though I don't know the alg I
practice reonising the PLL algs)
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Daniel W
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:38 pm Location: Southern California
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Clayne H. wrote: I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...
Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks.
The easiest way to recognize the G permutes is to solve the corner-edge pair and then place the two corners that have the same color on the face that they are sharing on the left side of your cube (it doesn't have to be the left side, depends on which algorithms you have learned). You can then tell which permutation you have by the location of the corner-edge pair. 
_________________ Started Speedcubing September 2006
3x3 PB (lucky): 17.34 3x3 PB : 20.75 PB Avg: 27.56
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Clayne H.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:55 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:30 pm Location: Dallas, Texas
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Daniel W wrote: Clayne H. wrote: I'm having a hellish time with these G pll's. Does anyone have any techniques as far as memorizing/recognizing them. I've memorized two, but I can't do either fast yet, and I can't recognize one from the other three...
Just any tips in general for these algs would be appreciated. Thanks. The easiest way to recognize the G permutes is to solve the corner-edge pair and then place the two corners that have the same color on the face that they are sharing on the left side of your cube (it doesn't have to be the left side, depends on which algorithms you have learned). You can then tell which permutation you have by the location of the corner-edge pair. 
Ah yeah, I already solve the corner/edge. Mainly it's remembering which alg goes to which and how to distinguish the specific cases. Mostly, I've solved the c/e, than hold the cube so that the 3-edges are vertical (D or backwards D shape), then from there it's slightly easier to remember...
But I think Mike's method will work better than mine 
_________________ PLL 15/21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve-Drdc8HMg
OLD NAME : Kid_with_teh_mohawk
pb 22.19
pb avg
27.61 = 26.74, 26.69, 26.98, 23.16, 26.14, 24.63, 23.71, (22.19), 30.41, (35.42), 34.97, 32.69
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Myke
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:13 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:28 pm Location: somewhere in the universe
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If the 2 group of cubies is on the right it is a mirror of a G perm and if the
FL corner goes to BL it is an inverse G perm. Just ignore the edges and if
the edges are in the right place it is a A perm. That's how I do it.
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