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 Post subject: FIRST VID!Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:07 pm

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
Hey, can somebody watch this vid and tell me what they think?

it's my new PB time, and it was a slightly lucky solve, but im proud

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:26 pm

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I'd be happy with 30 seconds if my average was 50. nice solve. try relaxing more and taking your time.

I need to practice relaxing for solving for a croud of people. I always get nervous and my hands slipe a bit.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:32 pm

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
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so relaxing helps you solve faster? i'll have to remember that.

oh, and i just got a new average of 50.8. that beats my old one of 50.9! lol

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:25 pm

Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
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Another tip: Warm your fingers up before you solve full speed. Just as in sports (speedcubing is a sport), you perform much better if you warm up and stretch. Find a warm up that works for you. For me, personally, I solve a megaminx before any timed 3x3x3 solves.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:36 pm

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k, i'll have to remember that. altho usually i do a few slow solves first to get warmed up, then speed solve.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:48 pm

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:42 pm

Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:42 am
Location: Sweden
yep it works that way, solving "slower" gives you a faster time

or atleast dont do an extremely quick algorithm, then watch for pieces, then do another quick algorithm etc... basically you want to do the algorithms a bit slower (or smoother) and look for the next pieces at the same time

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:16 pm

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
k, i'm picking up what your putting down. it's sortof what i've been doing on my own for a little while now... lol i think i'm getting better if i'm helping myself

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:20 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
Sorry if I have misinterpretted you, but to me, what you have just said is that you aren't really following the advice given. (sorry if this is wrong by the way.)
(Ignore the top sentence if I got it wrong, but either way, listen to this, it may be useful.)
Don't take what people say as gospel, but atleast use parts of it in your solving, if you don't start now, you may get into bad habits, and I know from experience, they are REALLY hard to get out of.

A stitch in time saves nine, remember that.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:46 pm

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
Pembo wrote:
Sorry if I have misinterpretted you, but to me, what you have just said is that you aren't really following the advice given.

yeah, you understood me lol. i'm picking up what you are putting down = i understand what you are saying to me.

Pembo wrote:
Don't take what people say as gospel, but atleast use parts of it in your solving, if you don't start now, you may get into bad habits, and I know from experience, they are REALLY hard to get out of.

yeah, i know what you mean. i'm not color neutral, and i'll probably never be neutral, because white is such a nice color for the bottom face

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A stitch in time saves nine, remember that.

ummm... i'll remember that if i could understand what the heck it means, lol. i think it's my turn to misunderstand now...

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:55 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
Wait you aren't colour neutral? do you use Petrus? I thought you use a Hybrid sort of thing?
If you are just using Fridrich, you DON'T want colour neutrality

A stitch in time, saves nine....that's just an old saying.
Basically it means fixing something small and trivial now can save a big hassle in the future.
If I am not mistaken, it comes from quilt making/mending. Fixing one stitch now, will save fixing 9 in a few weeks time.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:14 pm

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
yeah, i do use a hybrid. so maybe it's good i'm not neutral

wow, i'm surprised you remembered my odd little method.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:37 am

Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:15 am
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Pembo wrote:
If you are just using Fridrich, you DON'T want colour neutrality

Hmm, why? I use same colors for BLD, but for speedsolving, I'm always color neutral. (Including the rare solves when I use Fridrich )

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:50 am

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
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yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me either... but hey, look at it this way. somebody is finally telling me i'm not a loser just b/c i'm not color neutral!

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:02 am

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Johannes Laire wrote:
Pembo wrote:
If you are just using Fridrich, you DON'T want colour neutrality

Hmm, why? I use same colors for BLD, but for speedsolving, I'm always color neutral. (Including the rare solves when I use Fridrich )

recognition is faster when you know 1 colour scheme.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:13 pm

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Pembo wrote:
Johannes Laire wrote:
Pembo wrote:
If you are just using Fridrich, you DON'T want colour neutrality

Hmm, why? I use same colors for BLD, but for speedsolving, I'm always color neutral. (Including the rare solves when I use Fridrich )

recognition is faster when you know 1 colour scheme.

yeah, he has a point. thats why i never bothered learned new colors... that and i'm just lazy lol.

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:35 pm

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I have got stuck in my memory that I solve White cross, then look for pieces of colour Blue/Green/Red/Orange, then Yellow is on the top. Because this is subconscience, I don't have to think about where the piece need to be, I do it automatically.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:03 am

Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:15 am
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Pembo wrote:
I have got stuck in my memory that I solve White cross, then look for pieces of colour Blue/Green/Red/Orange, then Yellow is on the top. Because this is subconscience, I don't have to think about where the piece need to be, I do it automatically.

But you can't say color neutrality makes recognition harder, because you haven't really tried it. It's just as easy as solving the colors in same order every time, trust me.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:16 pm

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Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
I have tried playing around with different colour crosses with Fridrich and I just get lost, I takes me a while to spot cases.

okay, colour neutrality doesn't benefit me, but maybe it does with other Fridrich users?

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:51 pm

Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:25 am
It's merely a matter of mindset - you're used to having red/orange, Blue/Green and White/Yellow as your Cross/F2L patterning. *I find that I don't have problems with OLL/PLL with different colors, just F2L* but that's what happens with practice... Just like when you FIRST started solving - did you KNOW that white "should" be on bottom?

Nothing that a little bit of practice won't fix lol

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:07 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
No, I actually started doing the cross on green.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:29 pm

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:55 pm
Ok, for Fridrich color neutrality all you have to do is plan and build the cross (and know what color it is), look for the corners with that color (and pay attention to the other 2 colors it has), look for the edge, then solve. It's just as easy (after practice) and less moves. Then OLL and PLL are simple.

I partial color neutrality for Roux and it is easier than normal because I don't have to look for certain pieces, just build what I see.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:36 pm

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Block methods like Roux and Petrus benefit from colour neutrality, but to me Fridrich is better if you learn a set colour scheme

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:36 pm

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: FL
I have a set color scheme, but i am learning color neutrality because you can never learn too much.

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:40 am

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm
Location: Pennsylvania
Athefre wrote:
Ok, for Fridrich color neutrality all you have to do is plan and build the cross (and know what color it is), look for the corners with that color (and pay attention to the other 2 colors it has), look for the edge, then solve.

yeah, but there's one problem with that. i only solve for three edges at once in the beginning, so i have to look for 2 specific corner edge pairs.

and don't bother telling me just to build a full cross... i get lost/break it/go slower when i try it, so i do my 3 edge method.

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:43 pm

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Speedy McFastfast wrote:
Athefre wrote:
Ok, for Fridrich color neutrality all you have to do is plan and build the cross (and know what color it is), look for the corners with that color (and pay attention to the other 2 colors it has), look for the edge, then solve.

yeah, but there's one problem with that. i only solve for three edges at once in the beginning, so i have to look for 2 specific corner edge pairs.

and don't bother telling me just to build a full cross... i get lost/break it/go slower when i try it, so i do my 3 edge method.

But see, in my post I said "Ok, for Fridrich color neutrality". What you are using isn't Fridrich. It is a modification.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:37 pm

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oohh ok, i'm picking up what your putting down.

so what kind of method do i use? lol i don't really have a name for it.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:34 pm

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Speedy McFastfast wrote:
oohh ok, i'm picking up what your putting down.

lol

Speedy McFastfast wrote:
so what kind of method do i use? lol i don't really have a name for it.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:23 am

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Speedy McFastfast wrote:
so what kind of method do i use? lol i don't really have a name for it.

Name it.[/quote]

well, i'm not going to take credit for it completely, seeing as it is just a modified Fridrich method...

i think Pembo once called it a hybrid method... i kindof like the word hybrid, lol.
so i guess i use a Hybrid F2L

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