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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:00 pm 
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I don't know why but I never really tryed to go slow and take my time. When I was doing my average today using dans cube log I achieved 17.68. I went very slow. 2.6 moves per second. during inspection I found an awsome 2x2x3 in 7 moves. Then the bad edges were very easy. The c/e pairs were very easy. OLL was a very easy sune. And PLL was one of my favorites to do. The whole solution was 46 moves.

scramble. L' B2 D B' D2 B F U F2 B R D2 F2 D L2

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U2D'F'D'U'L'Ux'yFR'F2'U2FURU'R'URU'R'U'R'URU'R'Uz'R'U'RU'R'U2RU2zR'U'RD'R2'UR'U'R2UDzy'

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i notice when i go slow i can get about the same time as if i speed up. there is a middle ground where you are not going fdast or slow and thats where you can achieve your best times.


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You look ahead more going slow, a major part of going fast using Fridrich is going slow, I suppose it's the same for Petrus, as you have more pieces to spot.

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That's only a 15 move scramble :|


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if at the first z you do a 3 corner switcher you can get rid of 12 moves

you should of done R'ULU'RUL'U'

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chbouchard777 wrote:
That's only a 15 move scramble :|


I was going to say that. 15 moves usually leaves 3 or more pairs.


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i will always disagree with going slow with petrus method. because when you are really good you can recognize and still move without stopping extremely fast.


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you can copy and paste the scramble and solution here

http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestati ... panion.php

I like using 15 moves rather than 25 becuase they are faser to apply. I like it better when I'm doing my average out of 20

That was the actual solution I did when solving. I even put in the extra U turn between OLL and PLL.

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Kyle_A wrote:
i will always disagree with going slow with petrus method. because when you are really good you can recognize and still move without stopping extremely fast.

Yes, *when* you are really good :). But that's the case with all methods. I still find it better to go slow during steps 1-3, because if I go full speed I can't recognize any cool tricks that would save some moves.


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Once you are good, you can go whizzing off at 4tps with the Fridirch method ;)

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CaptianCrash44 wrote:
I like using 15 moves rather than 25 becuase they are faser to apply. I like it better when I'm doing my average out of 20

I think that's cheating, 15 moves is definately not enough. That scramble is one of the easiest I've seen, I almost broke my PB with it....


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thats not the easyest I've seen. on Ryans cube simulater I got a 2 move 2x2x2 and then another within the next 3 solves.

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BTW nice video on youtube, pembo :)


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Reguarding roux;

I'd say, go extremely slow when doing the F2B at first (when you're still learning how to do things the best way) then start to speed up. The corners and last six edges should be instant with recognition and automatically solved. Then with time, you can speed up your F2B and do it more minelessly and manage to do both things fast.

Also, while warming up for an average, you should do teh F2B slowly.

~Thom


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Kirjava wrote:
Reguarding roux;

I'd say, go extremely slow when doing the F2B at first (when you're still learning how to do things the best way) then start to speed up. The corners and last six edges should be instant with recognition and automatically solved. Then with time, you can speed up your F2B and do it more minelessly and manage to do both things fast.

Also, while warming up for an average, you should do teh F2B slowly.

~Thom


Have you seen Gilles' update to his Step 2 page? That's going to be very good for people just learning it. I remember when I started I searched and searched for information but couldn't find any.

What type of recognition do you use for the corners? I have been doing it a very slow way. I imagine I line up two corners that have matching colors to the side that has those colors and see if they need to be switched.


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Johannes91 wrote:
I think that's cheating, 15 moves is definately not enough. That scramble is one of the easiest I've seen, I almost broke my PB with it....


I took your advice and my times are no different. I've been practicing going slow with some pretty impressive results. At first my times were normal. average solves, F2L 15 seconds and LL in 7. Then my F2L times went down to 13 and now the most recent time is 10 seconds. Thats amazing for me. OLL was average but then it gave me a left handed G(my slowest G) so the LL took 9 seconds. 19.81 well still sub 20 but I hope to average there soon. :D

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