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 Post subject: Me solving the cubePosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:16 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
Could watch this video and give me some piece of advice? I will be grateful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKx5S0nHPY

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:49 am

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
not bad!
i would say you need to turn your wrist less and use more finger turns,
also you seem quite stiff, try and be more relaxed and fluid with your turns,
and finally, i would say, look ahead more and dont stop turning.

I had these exact problems and you will find a noticable difference when you overcome them (i reduced best time from 32s to 25s)

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:33 am

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
You definitly need to use more finger tricks. also try to learn the fastest way to do the algs it looks llike you know the moves you just can't do them fast. try holding it different or something. I'm going to get a video up soon.

oh and nice shirt

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:39 pm

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Like they all said, finger Tricks = good.
The problem I have is that many people are using java applets to show how to do an alg. Well, unfortunately, nobody can see where fingers go or how hands move.
I did do a quick search and found some pages that had a lot of videos on them. These are the PLL pages only.
http://www.planet-puzzle.com/cubepll_evo.html
http://www.speedcubing.com/peter/AllesFastPermute.html

and there were a couple on
http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/3-permutations.html

Check these videos out because there's a lot of things in there that will give your hands something to work for.

Also, Look ahead more on the F2L. Try to get the moves so stuck in your head that you don't think about them and you can see where you need to go next.
And along those lines(it's a technique that helps me), don't turn the cube so much. The more you turn the more time you waste and the less you looked ahead.
One last technique, somebody suggested solving with a metronome (or at least tapping your foot). One move per beat and no skipping. Does a WORLD of good for the F2L.

TBTTyler Fox

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:58 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
http://rubiks.dk/oll.asp?content=tutori ... speed=slow

this sit also has videos of algs you can watch them slow or fast. too bad I don't use any of them.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:17 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
http://www.cubewhiz.com/
Bob Burton's site has some algs with videos, the LL algs are very good off his site.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:37 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
right now I have one alg that takes me like 8 seconds to do. here it is.

RF'U'R2U'FUF'R2UFR' --8 seconds

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:13 pm

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Hey capn, try this version of your alg. I think it's off of Lars' site if I remember correctly.
(R U2 R2)(U' R2)(U' R2)(U2 R)

This one is done with the top of the "pi" to the right.

TBTTyler

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:04 pm

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: FL
the second fastest way to do it is (RUR'URU2R')U'(RUR'URU2R')

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:21 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
no none of those have the same effect. My slow alg is a diagonal switch and fix from step 5+6. it's the GG case on this page. I will try the 18 move verson and see how it goes.

http://lar5.com/cube/yG.html

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:59 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
The 18 move alg is twice as fast as the 12. I did it in about 4.5 seconds

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:25 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 am
Location: San Diego, California
here is a video that i just did. i posted it to youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2AT61GGqHQ

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:04 am

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
nice solve. thats .6 slower than my ultimate lucky record. was that lucky because it looks like step 1+2 came in like 7 moves? I will see if I can get a video.

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:15 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
new video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAMmueKYUA0

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:48 am

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
Looks like you are getting better, when you are doing PLL, try and turn the cube less and turn the top layer instead, also, when doing U2, instead of turning it once, then using the same finger to turn it again, use your forefinger for the first turn and then your middle finger for the second.

Adam Zamora wrote:
here is a video that i just did. i posted it to youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2AT61GGqHQ

at adam, looks like you could have gone quicker, you seem to stop a lot....

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:06 am

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Getting Better.

I kind of did this to myself and it made sense, so I'll do it to you...

Ok, Look at Adam's and yours. What are the differences in the solve. Why is he faster? Other than the OLL/PLL his hands don't move any faster than yours.
In fact notice how much he DOESN'T move. Also, when he does move, notice how smooth it is, one thing flowing into the next as though he know's what's coming.

Now here's my second suggestion...
Slow Down!
Well, think about it. Right now your problem is finding and using the CE pairs. Look at how long it takes Adam to do the f2l compared to you. That's where the time difference is. Slow down until the point where you look smooth and can look ahead, do it for a couple of days, then let yourself gradually speed back up but stay smooth. You will be surprised by one or two times you get when you go "slow".

TBTTyler

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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:58 am

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 am
Location: San Diego, California
i only did this video to show that you can do sub 20's and still be very slow at it. i did take alot of time to look at each move. but that little bit of time i can inspect lots of parts of the cube and still move fast and smooth. i do agree though that if you slow down you do get faster times. i sometimes move so fast i cant see the piece and then have to stop and look. thats partially what i did in this video.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:27 am

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: FL
Well here is what petrus method looks like with sub 20. Sorry, all i have is a crappy webcam.Done at 4 am :/.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0k1ifcJhY

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:42 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
ok, two new videos, i'm following you advices not to move the cube so much, one is a 19s solve, it was extremely lucky, but non;lc, second is a pop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBANprevr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFnrcgM88c8

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:56 am

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
good DIY rubik's cube 11\$
oil and new stickers 5\$
loosing 3 pieces on a lucky solve priceless...

you looked sad at the end.

I can go really fast and still make good time. what would happan if I slowed down...
my first video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3gM3wTEcg

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:41 pm

Joined: Thu May 25, 2006 1:02 pm
Some good videos here on Joels Speedcubing:

http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/i ... =tutorial6

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:14 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
wow. I do some of those completly diiferent and it takes me like twice as long my way. I should work on those. He is much more fluent than me.

this site needs a video section

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:38 pm

Joined: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:39 pm
Location: Austin, TX
i wish i could help, but my times suck. im just in cubing for the atmosphere. friendly people in the cubing community.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:54 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
qoou wrote:
i wish i could help,

who said you need to help with speedcubing?
everyone here helps in there own way, even if it's just keeping the community going(I'm not saying you just keep the community going, I'm using that as an example )

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:49 pm

Joined: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:39 pm
Location: Austin, TX

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:38 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
I was bored and made this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5sZpusIgQU

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:17 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyF7TvXqGM
I made that a few weeks ago, I use the same algo to show off too!

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:15 pm

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
well... it's a fast alg.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:10 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
pembo what is your PB?

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:01 am

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
Check my signature
I don't know any OLL yet and have almost finished learning PLL....I've had a few exams lately, and filling my brain with algorithms is not a good idea.
I am expecting sub 20 once I learn OLL....shouldn't be too long away...

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:31 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
aw, right, didi'nt see it. tell me, should i really learn all OLL's? i already know 21 PLL, and i think that working with simplified fridrich, i can easily get sub-20 times without learning all those god-damned-57-olls

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:41 am

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 am
Location: San Diego, California
sadzior- im in the middle of learning all of the 57 OLL's. once i got half of them my times went from 26 to 23. im guessing that when i finish learning the rest of them i will be sub-20. it is a great help learning all of them. i hate it when i get to an OLL and dont know it

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:54 am

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Location: New York
ha ha with petrus I only need 7 OLLs. but I don't really use them much any more. (swap and fix)

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Individual Times: 14.17, 12.93, (12.89), 13.12, 14.00, 15.59, 16.23, 14.11, 14.03, (17.61), 14.75, 14.89

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:44 am

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Location: Los Angeles
I have 2 more OLL to learn ... it's been about 2 years since I learned all the others

Let me tell you, being able to do a true 2 look last layer is really nice. It's definitely worth the time.
My time dropped about 7 seconds from when I started learning them to when I stopped. (about 35 to 28)

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:08 pm

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
hell, now i have to learn them all

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:30 pm

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm
Location: Arvada, CO
I recently learned about partial edge control which is a simple way of making sure you have at least 2 edges already oriented when you finish F2L.

If you use this, you can avoid using the 8 OLL algs that orient all 4 LL edges. Plus I'm guessing you already know all 7 corner only cases.

there ya go, only 42 left! LOL!

good luck

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:20 pm

Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:29 am
I'm curious about partial edge control. Do you do this by choosing the order you insert pairs, or by inserting the last pair differently?

When I get down to the last pair, I can only see one way to efficiently get them inserted. Is there any reading about this on the internet?

Even using 3LLL, this would save me some time permuting the edges.

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:56 pm

Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:21 pm
Location: Oceanside CA
dim5,
Look a little closer right before you insert that last pair when they're already joined and sitting in the LL. You'll see two very easy ways of placing them, you're probably just used to doing it the same way each time. What's the difference between a CE pair going in with R' F R F' or U R U' R' ? You can do this intuitively with some practice. I've been learning some ZBF2L to get all four edges oriented with the final pair. From there I finish with COLL and usually have a good LL from it. I'm just so used to OLL, there are some COLL cases that are difficult to recognize for me right now.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:36 am

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:12 am
Location: poland
i forgot to ask: Adam ZAmora, what kind of cube do you have? it looks like a blind man cube or sth, but turn realy smooth

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:43 am

Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am
Location: United Kingdom
Its a Rubik's Game cube, which has a rubik's deluxe mechanism.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:09 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
I have heard they are really good for speedcubing?

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:39 am

Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 am
Location: San Diego, California
Yes you are correct it si one of the Rubiks Game cubes. it does have the arched deluxe mechanisms. its is very smooth.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:22 pm

Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am
Location: United Kingdom
Heres a video of me solving, 26seconds-ish. Any tips?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtjZmQlTO4

Please pardon the agressive space-bar 'tap' at end

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