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 Post subject: 3x3x3 Supersolving help?Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:25 am

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
I've searched around, but haven't been able to find a site to learn how to super solve on the regular cube. Anyone know of a place to learn or can help me here? I can get 5 centers on my own with common sense, but the center on the LL is the one I can't get. Funny enough, I don't know why I hadn't registered here until now. I've came to this site often to just browse the forums, even though I don't post.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:40 am

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Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
im sorry i dont understand, what is super solving and what do you mean you can get 5 centers solved?

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:46 am

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Super solving is where you have the centers on a puzzle orient correctly. Hold on, I'll try making an image quickly.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:49 am

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Location: Bay Area(925), CA
ohh a 3x3 supercube...is that what you are talking about?

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:50 am

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Seunghoon Yi wrote:
ohh a 3x3 supercube...is that what you are talking about?

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:57 am

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Here's a quickly edited Gabbasoft screenshot.

 Attachments: File comment: Supercube. temp.jpg [ 47.19 KiB | Viewed 6074 times ]
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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:08 am

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if i was to solve it I would just visualize that a certain piece goes somewhere and etc solving like a normal 3x3...

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:11 am

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Seunghoon Yi wrote:
if i was to solve it I would just visualize that a certain piece goes somewhere and etc solving like a normal 3x3...
I do that, but when it comes to the LL, it always twists different ways, and I can't help it.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:26 am

Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:21 pm
Location: Oceanside CA
If the other five centers are good, then the last will just be a half turn away if it's not oriented. Do two T permutations (thanks skeneegee). There are other permutations you can do twice that do the same thing if you don't like the T perm. But who doesn't?

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:20 pm

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:40 pm
Location: Marske-By-The-Sea, UK
sorry about that, i understand now....picture cube solving

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:31 pm

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argh those picture cubes....i always just solve them a few times and i usually end up getting right after about 3-4 times

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:44 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:19 pm
if you're just talking about solving centers...

here's an easy algo you can memorize rather quickly...
http://www.alchemistmatt.com/cube/rubikcenter.html

I actually had to remember that to solve Fisher's cube!

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:33 pm

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Thanks everyone. I got it now.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:53 pm

Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:51 am
Location: U.K
Theres also a solution to rotate the centers without moving anything else under 3x3x3 on jaaps puzzle page.
http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:30 pm

Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am
Location: United Kingdom
I just use T-perms and then M, M' moves to make sure its the right centre piece im moving

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:35 pm

Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 10:13 am
Location: Norway

A picture (image) cube and a supercube is not necessarily really the same thing.

A picture cube will have some picture on each face of the cube and part of the problem solving will be to imagine what the pictures look like. Yes, and of course rotating the centers too. But!!! On such a picture cube not every center is necessarily "rotation variant". I mean u may or may NOT have some centers where rotating them will make no difference at all.

On a supercube however u will have each face being a unique color and in addition EVERY center MUST be oriented correctly. Stefan Pochmann has his own design for making supercubes, multicolor stickers on the centers. My way is to simply cut arrows on the centers, and possibly on some edges to indicate what direction the arrows should turn. This may or may not be less visually cluttering than multicolor tiles

-Per

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:59 pm

Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:38 pm
Location: Brazil
Dumb and completely newbie questions:

What is a supercube?
What is a picture cube?

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:57 pm

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:00 am
Location: Shanghai, China
A picture cube is basically a cube with pictures instead of color faces.

A super cube is a cube where how the center is oriented matters.

Here's a shorter (maybe not faster) algorithm than two T's:

(U R L U2 R' L')x2

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:17 am

Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Swordsman Kirby wrote:
A picture cube is basically a cube with pictures instead of color faces.

A super cube is a cube where how the center is oriented matters.

Here's a shorter (maybe not faster) algorithm than two T's:

(U R L U2 R' L')x2
That's what I've been using more or less. Just it's

[R L U2 R' L' U]x2

Thanks none the less.

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 Post subject: WowPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:59 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm
Location: Ohio
Isn't taht like really hard to line up the colors, or does it just happen when you solve it?

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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:58 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm
Location: Ohio
O ok... I went and looked it up... I get it now... but jeez... that just another stupid thing you have to orient... I wouldn't have the patience...

-FireWezul

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:34 am

Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:12 pm
Location: NY, USA
I find (R U R' U)*5 particularly easy to remember.

But (U R L R2 R' L')*2 is great! Thanks, Swordsman Kirby!

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:08 pm

Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:59 am
Location: Glastonbury, CT (USA)
qqwref wrote:
I find (R U R' U)*5 particularly easy to remember.

But (U R L R2 R' L')*2 is great! Thanks, Swordsman Kirby!

That second algorithm is the same as U R2... i think you made a typo.

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