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 Post subject: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:04 pm 
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Hello! These are my ideas for a crazy bandage.–°reate your own galaxy.


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 Post subject: Re: Bandaged ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Crazy bandaged and crazy 3x3x3 cube


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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:57 pm 
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Thanks for sharing your ideas,

I'm presently selling the Crazy2face / CrazyB4cube series, and there is a solving thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25893&start=0
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25902

I am about to make a related update announcement in the Marketplace thread.

There is a format for presenting ideas to represent all faces. Most of your ideas exist in groups of 4 faces therefore and aren't puzzles for us to try. In the ones that are presented, some pieces are permanently blocked. It would be more interesting if some of these things were checked. Perhaps make the puzzle and play it first to see?

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Burgo.

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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:02 am 
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Hi,

A Crazy 3x3x3 is nothing more than a 3x3x3 with visible core and visible orientation of the faces.
That means bandaging a crazy 3x3x3 by gluing adjacent pieces does not create anything new.
compared with the 5844 different variants viewable here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24406

Andreas


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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:20 pm 
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Burgo wrote:
Thanks for sharing your ideas,

I'm presently selling the Crazy2face / CrazyB4cube series, and there is a solving thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25893&start=0
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25902

I am about to make a related update announcement in the Marketplace thread.

There is a format for presenting ideas to represent all faces. Most of your ideas exist in groups of 4 faces therefore and aren't puzzles for us to try. In the ones that are presented, some pieces are permanently blocked. It would be more interesting if some of these things were checked. Perhaps make the puzzle and play it first to see?

Cheers,
Burgo.

This is one side in four positions. I offer only ideas. I never wrote that it is a full-featured puzzle. How looks are full-featured puzzle I described above .


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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
Hi,

A Crazy 3x3x3 is nothing more than a 3x3x3 with visible core and visible orientation of the faces.
That means bandaging a crazy 3x3x3 by gluing adjacent pieces does not create anything new.
compared with the 5844 different variants viewable here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24406

Andreas


It seemed clear to me this topic was intended for bandaging a Crazy 3x3x3 Plus or Crazy2Face rather than just a circle cube.

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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:48 pm 
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This is very frustrating to me, because Ecuber is presenting these ideas as his, when it is obvious that I am presently making the kits for sale. I must ask `what is his intention`? Is this some sort of contrary proof of concept or an attempt at simultaneous invention? For casual observers, this might not mean much, but I have thousands of dollars and many hours work invested in this project, for very little intended profit.

Here is the evidence of the kinds of bandaging I am making:
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These parts are the same type of bandaging, any implied difference is insignificant:
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Yes, Seth, these 2/4 or 3/4 aspects are somewhat pointless on a standard Crazycube (which is how they were presented by ecuber), as Andreas pointed out. But on my new CrazyB4cube centres or a 5face this will add something (because you pointed this out, I am forced to reveal a small new element in the kits). I had already been working on how to take the inner bandaging to the new centres efficiently (without creating a lot of centre parts). And I came up with a clip together system. Note that the black CCs are fixed when between 2 black inner edges. Some of this type of bandaging is intended to be included in the kit.
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This is the full `black hole effect`, which is only functional with the `inner aspects`. But you can see from it's construction that it is an efficient use of parts. The reason it is black is because if the inner components were coloured, the bandaging would be indistinguishable. The piece on the right is one of my Research and development pieces, to show how I came up with the concept:
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Unfortunately, I have to reveal early. But I `unfortunately` need to defend the project. I don't need to be doing this though, it's distracting me from building. This is obvious.

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Cheers,
Burgo.

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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:04 am 
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We're all with you Burgo!

Every single regular member of this forum knows what you have done! We all know that not only did you design the concept but you were also the first to produce a product.

I don't understand what he stands to gain by reproducing your work as his own but he cannot take out any kind of patent because the idea is in the public domain already. Under patent law this means that he cannot file for ownership of the idea.

Having played with your original kit for weeks now (currently taking a break!), I am looking forward to the extensions you are devising. These are amazing puzzles and you should be very proud. We all love them!

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 Post subject: Re: Bandage ideas for crazy 3x3x3 cube
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:51 am 
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I have sent a PM to Burgo asking for more details.

I do not see that ecuber has made claims for ownership.
Is it not very similar as posting a certain pattern that can be done by your kit in the solving forum?

I'll move this topic to the solving forum, for now. (Originally it was posted under "Building and Modding".)

EDIT: Burgo answered to my PM that he just wanted to defence his work. He wanted to understand ecuber's intention.
As the original posts just show diagrams and not real Crazy puzzles, I think that it is better placed under "Solving Puzzles". The topic is not directly related to "building", actually.

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