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 Post subject: pyramorphix----random moves can solve it?!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:44 pm 
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hey guys! i just found out that if you scramble a pyramorphix by color (do not shapeshift it), you can make random moves and solve it! i made a pyramorphix on ultimate magic cube (add a edge, number is 180.) i cick fully scramble, and i made random moves and tada!!! i solved it.

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 Post subject: Re: pyramorphix----random moves can solve it?!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:53 pm 
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This doesn't really deserve a topic as there as the puzzle you described is almost trivial. All you've done is basically turned your pyramorphix into a half-turn 2x2x2, making an extremely simple puzzle. It's like solving the tips of the pyraminx, you'll eventually end up with the correct configuration.

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ummm ok i didnt realise that

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I calculated only 8 possible permutations to a half turn 2x2

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You can solve any puzzle by making random moves.

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ubuntucuber wrote:
I calculated only 8 possible permutations to a half turn 2x2

There are 24 possible permutations.
If you keep the DLB corner fixed (i.e. only do U2, R2, F2 moves) then the 4 corners UFR, UBL, DFL, DBR can be permuted in all possible ways. Every move swaps UFR with one of the others. This gives at least 4!=24 positions.
The other three corners cannot be moved independently, and orientation is fixed, so those 24 positions are all there are.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:55 pm 
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Tony Fisher wrote:
You can solve any puzzle by making random moves.

I would agree in general, but I wonder if this is the case with the Latch Cube, where many moves are irreversible.

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Kelvin Stott wrote:
Tony Fisher wrote:
You can solve any puzzle by making random moves.
I would agree in general, but I wonder if this is the case with the Latch Cube, where many moves are irreversible.
Of course it is. Any move on the latch cube can be directly reversed. Just keep on turning!

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TomZ wrote:
Kelvin Stott wrote:
Tony Fisher wrote:
You can solve any puzzle by making random moves.
I would agree in general, but I wonder if this is the case with the Latch Cube, where many moves are irreversible.
Of course it is. Any move on the latch cube can be directly reversed. Just keep on turning!
Doh, silly me! :roll:

Still, this has just given me a very interesting idea. :D

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 Post subject: Re: pyramorphix----random moves can solve it?!
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Tony Fisher wrote:
You can solve any puzzle by making random moves.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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