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 Post subject: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:48 am

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Hey i have a little bit trouble to solve my 4x4x5 :/
I can solve it when i dont get parity. Because when i use PLL parity of 4x4 the inner center pieces will get messed up like in the picture :O

Is anyone here who can help me

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:51 am

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Have you tried (r2 R2 u2) x3? Either that or something along the lines of that algorithm should work. Unless the other center piece isn't where I think it is. Could you show a picture of the other side?

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:55 am

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i will do later i need to go for some hours :/

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:57 am

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I think I've worked out what you have to do for most cases. If you put a picture up later I'll try and give you an algorithm.

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:32 am

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okay this is how the back looks the 2 center pieces are switched xO

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:48 am

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OK, try this: Hold it so on the front face one of the scrambled center pieces is on the right, and perform this: (r2 R2 u2)x2 b2 u2 r2 R2 u2 b2 r2 R2.

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:01 am

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Sebuver, how in god's name do you figure out those algorithms!?

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:04 am

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NType3 wrote:
Sebuver, how in god's name do you figure out those algorithms!?

You switch the two edges intuitively, then try again try again etc. When you know it by heart you decode

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:05 am

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you made my day IT WORKS thank you so much i finaly can solve it without trouble

how did you found out ? ;D tell me xD

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:15 am

Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm
Location: Chichester, England
NType3 wrote:
Sebuver, how in god's name do you figure out those algorithms!?

I'm a genius.

Seriously, I worked it out from experience. if you perform (R2 U2)x3 on a 3x3x3, you get the Fish Pattern. If you apply it irregulary on higher order puzzles, then different things happen. For example, it flipped the middle edges around internally which you couldn't see. Then you're left with 4x4x4 parity, in which I used my own algorithm which I made up and use on the 4x4x4. To make sure I was correct, I just used a 5x5x5.

Glad I could help solve the problem Rouricht!

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 Post subject: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:32 pm

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My algorithm (white - U, light-blue - F):

(F2 2U2 r2 2U2)*2 - 8 turns.

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:01 pm

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 Post subject: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:38 pm

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One interesting position:

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 Post subject: Re: How to solve 4x4x5Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:06 pm

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pytlivyj_1 wrote:
One interesting position:
Shorter: 2F2 R2 2U2 2F2 2U2 R2 2F2 2U2

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