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 Post subject: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:15 pm 
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It seems like everyone leaves them on all the time now. My laptop doesn't even have "shut down" as the default option. Am I the only person left who turns off my PC when I'm not using it?


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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:38 pm 
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I certainly don't, but for a couple reasons.
-I don't want to miss out on what happens on IRC
-I am downloading/ seeding things, and don't want it to stop.
-It can take a long time for an impatient mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:57 pm 
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I turn my computer off every night before I go to bed. I only leave it on if I'm downloading something.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:14 pm 
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My computer is almost always computing something. I think I average about 180 days of uptime on most of my machines. The reason for rebooting is usually kernel upgrades.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:43 pm 
Yeah I have a Macbook Pro. I make YouTube video's every day so it's always rendering and exporting at night and usually all night. I work it very hard and during the day I'm using it to do averages or just surf the internet. I download a lot too so it's always working. The downfall of this is that the batteries life will run out faster and the hard drive has quit on me once already, BUT, that's what apple care is for and I get it all replaced for free.

The only time I turn it off is when it freezes which is very rare or if I've upgraded to something and it needs to re-boot.


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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:45 pm 
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My desktop at home stays on almost 24/7 as does Mr. Man's computer. His runs the network thing, mine holds the data. Remote access of files to large for a brain stick.

I leave my office computer on most days for exactly the same reason.

My new toy? When I'm done playing on her she's shut off, as is my old mini and bugs Mac.

We live in an age where we believe we need....well whatever it is we think we need instantaneously. I mean, how many can honestly say they heard the telltale sign of a dial-up connection? I think we switched here in HK mid to late 90's. Bug thought it odd when we explained the speed to her during an 80's movie.

I'm frustrated by the start up time of Betty (funny story that) she is sooooo slow. But like her owner, once she's up for the day there's no stopping her.


A better question (I think) would be why doesn't anyone shut off their phone? Think about it, when did you last power off?

*oh my, wile I'm on my rant...I've just realized we have 7 perfectly good working computers in the house.
One that stores the movies
One for Mr. man
Bugs Mac
My mini-for travel
The HP miss N. uses
My desktop
And my toy.

Why does any family need that many?

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:03 pm 
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katsmom wrote:

A better question (I think) would be why doesn't anyone shut off their phone? Think about it, when did you last power off?

*oh my, wile I'm on my rant...I've just realized we have 7 perfectly good working computers in the house.
One that stores the movies
One for Mr. man
Bugs Mac
My mini-for travel
The HP miss N. uses
My desktop
And my toy.

Why does any family need that many?

It actually is strange that we don't shut off our phones at night. After all, the smartphones from up to like 3 years ago are more powerful than computers from when Windows XP was the latest OS out.

I have a MacBook Air and I just close it whenever I'm not using it and I haven't noticed any problems with that. I also have a desktop that I run a MineCraft server off of and that server and computer is running all the time.

I think that the main reason that we don't turn off our computers anymore is that we don't have a reason to or that we want it to stay on.


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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:32 pm 
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I think the reason it's not popular to turn off your phone is because they're meant for quick access. Every morning when I wake up, I immediately grab my phone and check email, texts, facebook, etc and I know a lot of other people do too. Not to mention it doesn't help to have your phone off if there's an emergency and someone needs to call you.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:57 pm 
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BN wrote:
I think the reason it's not popular to turn off your phone is because they're meant for quick access. Every morning when I wake up, I immediately grab my phone and check email, texts, facebook, etc and I know a lot of other people do too. Not to mention it doesn't help to have your phone off if there's an emergency and someone needs to call you.


Why WOULD you turn off your phone at night? If you have a land line, you don't unplug it when you go to sleep, because someone might need to contact you during the night. Same will cell phones.

With computers, I always just shut my laptop (hibernate), and my desktop is set to hibernate after an hour of inactivity. The minor cost of the electricity to run a mostly-powered down system is worth it to me for the convenience of being able to hop on to my system in seconds whenever I need it. Plus I often have things running overnight.


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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:07 pm 
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Call me old fashioned, I don't answer phones during dinner, I shut it off in class. I turn it off most nights because if the call is really important, you have my landline number. And yes, I occasionally shut that off too.

I just don't see the need to keep all electronic gadgets beeping and flashing and doing their stuff all the time.

But I was a genuine question. I have hammered home the idea of respect for her teachers so much so that now bug forgets to turn her phone back on.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:41 pm 
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What ever happened to unstable OS software?

By and large the ability of an OS to run continuously for days has dramatically improved over my career. And also consider the improvements in power saving modes that laptops have led.

It used to be that turning off the computer when you were done with it was practical for energy reasons and because it simply wouldn't function properly if not rebooted frequently. This was a huge bother compared to just walking away or shutting a laptop lid.

So whatever happened to shutting off computers? I'd say many thousands (or millions?) of man hours of effort to make it unnecessary were a success.

Enjoy it!

Dave :)

P.S. I turn off my phone at night about half the time (which is to say, when I remember). I don't suppose it makes that much difference to the battery (it's in standby mode as no one calls me) but the conservationist in my feels better about it I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:06 pm 
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I've always left mine on just because I've never had a real reason not to.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:37 am 
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DLitwin wrote:
What ever happened to unstable OS software?

I think you're talking about typical consumer OS software. Linux has provided a very stable option for about 15 years and various BSDs a great number of years before that.

I'd argue that anyone using the "hibernate" or "suspend to disk" feature offered by their OS is turning their computer off.

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:59 am 
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You can turn off computers?! :o

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 Post subject: Re: Whatever happened to shutting off computers?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:10 am 
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I'm really surprised so many people keep their laptops on overnight. I always turn mine off and unplug, just to give the battery a rest, though I honestly don't know if this makes a difference. I just know that I personally wouldn't be able to function very well if I never went to sleep. :(

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