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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: New improved recipe? Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:03 pm |
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I really hate seeing this on my favourite foods because almost certainly it means I won't like it so much. Sure it may be more healthy, reduced salt, reduced fat blah blah blah but I like what I like so just leave it alone!
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Garrett
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:35 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:14 pm Location: Orange County, CA
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It depends. If the recipe more or less tastes the same but is better for you then I would prefer that new recipe.
Generally when I think of "new and improved recipe" I don't expect it to taste any different.
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Gus
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:12 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 am Location: Jarrow, England
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I think it means that they have reduced the pack/jar/box size without reducing the price.
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katsmom
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:03 pm |
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darryl
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:59 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 8:50 am Location: chicago, IL area U.S.A
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When Frito Lay switched their Doritos to "New and improved" I immediately had to try them and could tell it was quite an obvious cost reduced formula. I sent them a nasty gram and a month or two later I noticed they were quietly switched back. I'm guessing I wasn't the only one to complain. I even offered to help them with cost reductions while maintaining the current flavor (It's part of what I do when I'm not playing with puzzles)
Our marketing department hates "new and improved". If it's 'new' how can it be improved?
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Ender Delphiki
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:40 pm |
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Agreed with Darryl. New and Improved is just... gah. If it's improved, it must not be new since there must have been something before it. In terms of foods, I'd rather see separate flavors, "Classic" and a name describing the actual taste in food. I've never really been a fan of Doritos, but I can bring in a different example. My dad used to be a top guy in the Silk Soymilk product. Completely organic soybean milk made completely with green energy and recycled materials, and the taste and health benefits are just amazing and... Back to the point, when Dean Foods bought the Silk Soymilk, those organic labels and green habits went away, and the only hint was: "New and Improved". I would certainly not call that improvement, and the product has been around for many years before so it can't be new.
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Adman234
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:26 am |
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Remember "New Coke"? Big flop right there. Usually companies have no incentive to change the recipe on a product to TASTE better, because if something like coke is already selling billions of cans then it is obvious that nothing needs to be changed. I agree that "new and improved" is just a way to cover-up a new cost-reducing recipe. Not really sure what this has to do with puzzles though... Pretty off-topic 
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Ender Delphiki
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:05 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:55 pm Location: Montana
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What about retooling cubes to be cheaper? I'm sure it's been done before.
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theVDude
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:58 pm |
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darryl wrote: If it's 'new' how can it be improved? -d This always bugged me.
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Steveo
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:42 pm |
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The new artificial colour-free Smarties are an example of a company trying to improve a product, but not for more money... The problem is, I hate them now... 
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:24 pm |
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Adman234 wrote: Not really sure what this has to do with puzzles though... Pretty off-topic :lol: :lol: You are actually more off topic than me since you mentioned something on topic in the Off Topic forum.
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malevolant
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm |
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The only reason anything should be changed is if enough people complain about it or the creator is unhappy with the first results. In the case of the Doritos, it was obviously a cost saving move, which is ridiuculous. If they were still profitting, and people were happy, why change anything.
If my buddy tried to mess with his chocolate chip cookie recipe (which is incredible, I make him make a big batch of dough for me to put in the fridge and make cookies as I please) I'd be pretty pissed because he didn't need to change anything to "improve" his product
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:50 am |
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Tony Fisher wrote: Adman234 wrote: Not really sure what this has to do with puzzles though... Pretty off-topic  You are actually more off topic than me since you mentioned something on topic in the Off Topic forum. You, more so, for discussing the on-topic "off-topic" topic in the off-topic forum.
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Ender Delphiki
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:14 pm |
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even more on topic, I foresee this tangent going in someone's signature.
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elijah
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:39 pm |
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Done. Although some of it had to be paraphrased for the sake of the 255 character limit. 
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stardust4ever
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:20 am |
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Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:58 pm Location: Louisiana, US
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Sometimes, a change in recipe can be a welcome improvement. I'm 30 years old now, and for the past decade, my tastes have slowly been changing such that healthier food is beginning to become more appetizing than unhealthy food. Any change in diet that reflects less sodium/fat or replaces processed carbs (i.e. white sugar, high fructose corn syrup) with natural carbs (i.e. berries, fresh fruit) is a welcome change to me. I also much prefer whole grain or wheat instead of white bread. For years, I couldn't eat Dominoes Pizza because some secret ingredient in their sauce was giving me intestinal discomfort. Once when I was 19, I ate a whole thin crust pizza by myself and I had problems for a whole week.  Funny thing was, Dominoes was the only Pizza chain whose pizza did this to me. I could eat anywhere else, whether a local pizza shop or nationwide brand, and be fine. Recently, they did a new add campaign announcing their newer fresher sauce came from sun-ripened tomatoes. It does taste better now and I can eat their pizza again without having any of the previous digestive issues. I still much prefer Johny's pizza though (it's a regional chain in the Southern US). I try to eat healthier and on a tighter budget nowadays, so I generally avoid restaurant pizza. When you buy a $5 pizza from the frozen foods section of the grocery store that you can bake in your own oven, and pile on all the extra toppings you want at little extra cost, you get a great hot fresh pizza with much less fat and grease than the $20 you would have spent ordering out.
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Re: New improved recipe? Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:08 pm |
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stardust4ever wrote: . When you buy a $5 pizza from the frozen foods section of the grocery store that you can bake in your own oven, and pile on all the extra toppings you want at little extra cost, you get a great hot fresh pizza with much less fat and grease than the $20 you would have spent ordering out. Yes but my extra toppings include loads more cheese and bacon.
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