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 Post subject: Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid auction
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:40 pm 
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I can't believe it's been over a year since I last auctioned one of these. Anyway, on Wednesday 8th November a 10 day auction starts for a signed Tetrahedron / Halpern-Meier Pyramid.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:21 pm 
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NOOOO WAY IM GOING FOR THIS ONE lol

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Here's the video-

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 4600211105

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Wow, a year already. I remember losing out on this auction. I was able to get this one, not near the quality of a Tony Fisher puzzle though. It came with a box and is made from a keychain skewb so it is smaller.


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Mr.Twisty wrote:
Wow, a year already. I remember losing out on this auction.


I feel very honored :oops: . That was me. :D :) 8-) :wink:


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Hey Tony,
nice new avatar!
Something we will see on ebay soon, also?

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it basically looks like Katsuhiko's Dino Octa:
http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dino-octa.html
but a higher order one :D


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I believe that is Aleh's (spelling?) master octahedron. Not sure though.

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aha :) i see now, had forgot about Aleh's creation (sorry :D)... i just Gimp'ed some and got this thing (which looks identical but would turn around the centermost triangles of each face instead i think) but i guess the 8-center-mech needed for this would be a little bit more complicated to build :D :


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It's Aleh's Master Octahedron. It's one of my all time favourite creations. Considering it was completely hand made it is possibly the cleverest modification ever. It's a shame it often gets forgotten about. I don't think Aleh ever made more than one and if I owned it there's no way I would put it on ebay.

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i had a chance to play with that puzzle at US Nationals this year. its an amazing creation. If I remember correctly it was made with a eastsheen 4x4x4. Tony you are lucky to have it I believe there is only 1, i can be wrong though


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Adam Zamora wrote:
Tony you are lucky to have it

Did I read wrong or did he just wrote that IF he owned it...? :P


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Unfortunately I don't own it.

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pHeTe wrote:
it basically looks like Katsuhiko's Dino Octa:
http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dino-octa.html
but a higher order one :D


I will have to disagree with you on that because I think that the Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made is just bandaged from a Aleh's Master Octahedron. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.

Just like a Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid which I think look like its bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.


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how could you ever construct that masterpiece from a eastsheen 4x4x4. It just seems there are way to many moveable parts on the octahedron to work with an eastsheen 4x4x4. Might someone elaborate on how this is possible.


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Darren Grewe wrote:
pHeTe wrote:
it basically looks like Katsuhiko's Dino Octa:
http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dino-octa.html
but a higher order one :D


I will have to disagree with you on that because I think that the Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made is just bandaged from a Aleh's Master Octahedron. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.

Just like a Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid which I think look like its bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.


hmm i don't quite understand you there :) the Dino Octa is not a bandaged version of Aleh's Master Octahedron :O

it's a higher order version of the Skewb Diamond:
http://www.twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=393
based on the rainbow cube i think

while Aleh's Master Octahedron is based on the Eastsheen 4x4x4 and moves in a completely different way


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pHeTe wrote:
Darren Grewe wrote:
pHeTe wrote:
it basically looks like Katsuhiko's Dino Octa:
http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dino-octa.html
but a higher order one :D


I will have to disagree with you on that because I think that the Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made is just bandaged from a Aleh's Master Octahedron. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.

Just like a Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid which I think look like its bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.


hmm i don't quite understand you there :) the Dino Octa is not a bandaged version of Aleh's Master Octahedron :O

it's a higher order version of the Skewb Diamond:
http://www.twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=393
based on the rainbow cube i think

while Aleh's Master Octahedron is based on the Eastsheen 4x4x4 and moves in a completely different way


What I meant to say is that Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made sort of looks like a bandaged Aleh's Master Octahedron puzzle to me any way. Yes I know there 2 different puzzles entirely.

For the Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid sort of looks like a bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Yes I know there 2 different puzzles entirely.

That is how I solved my Master Pyraminx that I got from Katsuhiko.

Understand me yet? I know Jin H Kim knows what I'm talking about and I'll also give you the link for it if you want it.


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Darren Grewe wrote:
What I meant to say is that Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made sort of looks like a bandaged Aleh's Master Octahedron puzzle to me any way. Yes I know there 2 different puzzles entirely.

For the Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid sort of looks like a bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Yes I know there 2 different puzzles entirely.

That is how I solved my Master Pyraminx that I got from Katsuhiko.

Understand me yet? I know Jin H Kim knows what I'm talking about and I'll also give you the link for it if you want it.


ye i get you :) it's just that you wrote:

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I will have to disagree with you on that because I think that the Dino Octa. that Katsuhiko made is just bandaged from a Aleh's Master Octahedron.


and that "i think the dino octa is bandaged from a master octahedron"-part just threw me off a bit :D


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Ryan, The Eastsheen 4x4x4 is jam packed with extra internal pieces you don't normally see. My Overlapping Cube made use of several.

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Please note that fraudsters have stolen pictures from my auction and claiming to be selling the same thing. It seems that this kind of thing follows my auctions so any bidders should be very careful. Please contact me here or directly if you think something is suspicious.

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Just like a Tony Fisher's TETRAHEDRON / Halpern-Meier Pyramid which I think look like its bandaged from a Master Pyraminx that Katsuhiko made. Granded that it does turn differently and also it is a different mechanism.



I thought it was just a bandaged Master Pyraminx as well (judging by the pics). However, it's not - Tony made his own pieces and everything is hand made. I have both and put them side by side. The Tetrahedron is a lot larger and a bit heavier. Also you can tell the plastics used differ from each maker.

I hope I didn't reveal anything Tony/Katsuhiko. I just wanted to clarify that they are indeed two different puzzles made differently.

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Tony's Tetrahedron is based on a skewb puzzle and I am not sure what the Master Pyraminx core is. The tetrahedron Meier/Halpern puzzle I have is made from a keychain skewb. It is much smaller and lighter than Tony's.

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