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 Post subject: Tony Fisher's (signed) OVERLAPPING CUBE auction
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:10 pm 
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On Wedneday 3rd May a 10 day auction starts for one of my remaining Overlapping Cubes. This is the first one I have signed and I shan't auction any more until 2007 at the earliest. This is one of my favourite puzzles and I am very happy with the quality. The worst thing about it is the name. I simply couldn't think of anything else to call it.
Below are some low resolution photos and an article which recently appeared in CFF, thanks to Dieter Gebhardt. For the auction itself I have for the first time used much higher resolution photos. If you save them on your computer you can then zoom in for an ultra close up inspection.


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Oh my, that is peculiar. :) When mixed, it reminds me of Mondrian paintings.


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Here's the video-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8176509936


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How did you make it? Like I think I heard its an Eastsheen...

Good job!


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Yeah its too small for a rubiks.
Does the eastsheen actually has the plastiksphere-inside mech like the rubiks one?

Does the centersquare actually always stay together with one of the "adjacent rows"? For example could you turn the 1. and 2. layer 45 degrees and than the 3. and 4. also and the centers would stay alone "behind" the overlapping parts?

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Leander wrote:
Yeah its too small for a rubiks.
Does the eastsheen actually has the plastiksphere-inside mech like the rubiks one?

Does the centersquare actually always stay together with one of the "adjacent rows"? For example could you turn the 1. and 2. layer 45 degrees and than the 3. and 4. also and the centers would stay alone "behind" the overlapping parts?


I have one of these. It is made from an Eastsheen 4x4x4. The Eastsheen mechanism is just a 5x5x5 in which the middle slices are hidden, and fixed in such a way that they move along with one of the adjacent slices.

If you pop the centre caps of the eastsheen 4x4x4, you can see those hidden pieces, and Tony has made them visible by building them up to the surface of the cube.

If you turn one half of this overlapping cube, the middle layer pieces will stick to one half or the other. However, all these centre pieces can move about and be mixed due to face turns (a face turn can move any small centre centre piece from a fixed layer to a moving layer).

It is a rather nice puzzle, as the centre pieces are slightly challenging for a while.

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wow!

The whole concept of creating this puzzle is extremely interesting! :)

For some reason it wakes up some thoughts of how to create a four dimensional cube!
It is combining abstract art and abstract maths.
It is simple and complicated at the same time...!
(ok, ok I better stop now before I get too carried away again :oops: )



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kastellorizo wrote:
It is combining abstract art and abstract maths.

Peter


Its sort of like M C Escher if you know his work. I love his work.

http://www.mcescher.com/Shopmain/ShopRo ... hoprow.htm


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Hi Tony,

Beautiful concept and execution. I like the designs which naturally occur.

Why not call it something like "stained glass" cube ala picture a4?

David J


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Thanks,
Although the name could be better I am not one for anything too fancy. When I made a Dodecahedral transformation of a Rubik's Cube many years ago I was happy to call it just that.
My Overlapping Cube is not fragile though I am sure that many people who make puzzles would get nervous at the thought of their puzzle being twisted as fast as possible by an expert speedcuber.


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Darren Grewe wrote:

Its sort of like M C Escher if you know his work. I love his work.

http://www.mcescher.com/Shopmain/ShopRo ... hoprow.htm



I agree. M. Escher's drawings are fantastic. That was the reason I got a 7x7 M. Escher sliding puzzle,
it is much more challenging than the usual sliding ones in an "artistic" sense! :wink:

http://www.kastellorizo.org/puzzles/pic ... de_7x7.JPG

(there are more sliding puzzles with such patterns on ebay)


Of course, my favourite drawing of his, is the one with the red ants on that Mσbius strip! :)

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PS Tony, sorry for hijacking the thread with M. Escher's drawings!!! :oops:

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I was recently asked if I could supply the cube without a signature. I am perfectly happy to do that.


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excuse me ?!! :shock:

"They" didn't even wanna bid that much for a 6x6 cube.

Say is this actually harder for you to build than lets say a mental block or a 2x3x4 cuboid? Like I understand how it is build now but I have never seen an estsheen 4x4 from the inside.

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Leander wrote:
excuse me ?!! :shock:

"They" didn't even wanna bid that much for a 6x6 cube.



hahaha yeah i was just thinking that of the final bid.
missed the last enter button by 2 seconds :( lol

---but i think as Tony says, if the 6x6x6 had a lower starting big, i'm sure it'll have generated a lot more bids.

Well Tony, how does it feel to have one of your puzzles to sell over $1000 USD?

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This looks like all time high. :shock:
Tony, congratulations! 8-)

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Words like wow! and unbelievable! spring to mind. I didn't realise it was over $1000, UK ebay doesn't show $. As for the 6x6x6 I do think it would have gone pretty high if they had a lower starting price. I only have a tiny number of Overlapping Cubes and most people realise even if I made more it would only be a few. The 6x6x6 on the other hand is being mass produced and I assume it will soon be available at a normal price.


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and all of us cant wait for the 6x6x6 does any1 know where to find a pic of one of the ones that are being massed produced like the mechanism or anything

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http://www.olympicube.com/#6
you can even get video :wink:
sorry for messing up this topic feel free to ignore this post
but does anyone know why they give numbers of pieces for the 11 cube for example i mean do they really know a possible mechanism for that?
if yes, why don't they built it
secondly why do they show the cubes with rounded sides?

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but does anyone know why they give numbers of pieces for the 11 cube for example i mean do they really know a possible mechanism for that?
if yes, why don't they built it
secondly why do they show the cubes with rounded sides?


all questions running through everyone's minds.


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Leander wrote:
does anyone know why they give numbers of pieces for the 11 cube for example i mean do they really know a possible mechanism for that?
if yes, why don't they built it?


I think it is because there is some BIG gap going from theory to practice.
It will happen, but designing, testing, and marketing always takes time,
especially for a step from a 5x5x5 to a 6x6x6 cube which took 20+ years! :wink:
I also cannot wait!!! :oops:




Leander wrote:
secondly why do they show the cubes with rounded sides?


Now this may have to do with the engineering part.
Having "rounded" sides, may actually help the puzzle remain in one piece while being "abused" by a speedsolver! LOL
Still, I do not expect the pieces to be round, rather than flat,
and the centre pieces being placed in a more outer position than those near the edges/corners.
(the nearest to the centre, the outer they will be).

In other words, I mean something like this
http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=857
but the relative heights should be much much smaller. 8-)
(and if this is not the case, then the scrambled puzzle will have a slightly anomalous shape!)



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I have seen detailed designs for all the cubes up to 11x11x11. I will try to find a link. The puzzles need to be rounded otherwise the corners would fall out.
I am switching this discussion to General Topics under 11x11x11 design.


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